Jump to content


Photo

What Chinese Pens Are You Using Today?


  • Please log in to reply
2084 replies to this topic

#1 richardandtracy

richardandtracy

    Museum Piece

  • Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,825 posts
  • Location:Kent, UK
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 13:22

What Chinese pens are you using today?

There have been a number of threads about other pens, but I'm surprised how many are in use. What are yours & how do you rate them?

In the last couple of months I have found that I'm always carrying a Chinese pen along with my more normal Parkers, and today both are Chinese:
Kaigelu 316 Amber/grey.
Kaigelu 319 Lapis cap.

Both are excellent - writing at least as well as a Duofold & Sonnet respectively.

Regards,

Richard.

Edited by richardandtracy, 26 February 2013 - 08:32.


#2 sandstorms

sandstorms

    Dipped Only

  • Member - Silver

  • Pip
  • 5 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 13:36

Today, I am using a Baoer 79 (black squared). Incredibly smooth!

#3 Kaptenmork

Kaptenmork

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 453 posts
  • Location:Singapore
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 13:57

I wrote a postcard with my Hero 329 filled with Platinum carbon ink :cloud9:

A very nice panda-card :cloud9: :cloud9:

#4 wastelanded

wastelanded

    No affiliation.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,409 posts

Posted 26 January 2012 - 14:41

Road-testing a Baoer 519 today, actually!
"I was cut off from the world. There was no one to confuse or torment me, and I was forced to become original." - Franz Joseph Haydn 1732 - 1809

#5 BobR

BobR

    Reduced for Quick Sale

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 957 posts
  • Location:Connecticut, USA
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 14:48

Inked my lightly-used Hero 329 with Diamine Monaco Red a few days ago. I find it remarkably sturdy and smooth for such an inexpensive pen. Also I find the wet fine line just right for a rich red ink for highlighting, mark-up etc.

#6 Kaptenmork

Kaptenmork

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 453 posts
  • Location:Singapore
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 15:20

and most 329 can write upside down, for a very fine writing :cloud9:

#7 richardandtracy

richardandtracy

    Museum Piece

  • Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,825 posts
  • Location:Kent, UK
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 15:37

?!?! Isn't a 329 fine enough the right way up?

Regards,

Richard.

#8 cuza

cuza

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 732 posts
  • Location:Somewhere in Oregon

Posted 26 January 2012 - 15:50

Hero 329...dark green with the goldtone cap. Looks great and writes impressively well. I alternate the 329 with either a Kageilu 316 or Haolilai 601F.

cuza

PS: I find the Hero 329 writes fine right side up. What's nice about it is that it is cheap enough to not worry when carrying it in my pants pocket.

Edited by cuza, 26 January 2012 - 16:14.


#9 M@rtin

M@rtin

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 229 posts
  • Location:Argentina
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 16:29

black HERO 616

#10 studiohead

studiohead

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 16:35

DSC00038.JPG

I am using a Jinhao 888 Dragon Decent in copper because it is the start of the Dragon Lunar Year and my Duke 209 Frosted Black (Matt Black) Gold Trim.

I feel that the Jinhao 888 needs some tweaking as it a hard start and often skips (Maybe a more complete flush is needed)

But the Duke 209 is a dream to use.
From The Sunny Island of Singapore

Straits Pen Distributors and Dealers of Craft Rinkul, Schrade Tactical Pens, Noodler's Ink LLC Pens & TWSBI in Singapore

One of the Lineup

Guess which one of the lineup I am

Disclosure: I do nib work for others and am affiliated with those which do. I also sell and represent certain brands of pens.


#11 Uncle Red

Uncle Red

    Museum Piece

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,337 posts
  • Location:Pittsburgh,PA
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 16:52

3 Hero 616 Jumbos loaded with Diamine Registrar's Ink, Rohrer und Klingner Salix and Scabiosa.

#12 Sailor Kenshin

Sailor Kenshin

    Heart of sword

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,482 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 16:57

What Chinese pens are you using today?

There have been a number of threads about other pens, but I'm surprised how many are in use. What are yours & how do you rate them?

In the last couple of months I have found that I'm always carrying a Chinese pen along with my more normal Parkers, and today both are Chinese:
Kaigelu 316 Amber/grey.
Kaigelu 319 Lapis cap.

Both are excellent - writing at least as well as a Duofold & Sonnet respectively.

Regards,

Richard.



Today? As always, a Hero 616 (two, actually, different colors, dif inks), a green Hero 329 ( my Noodler's BGG pen), and a Hero 86 (the fude). I'm still looking for the perfect ink for that one.


Just for this week I'm test-driving a Duke someone here kindly traded me.

Can't get the model number now, but it's red and silver and heavy. Loaded with JH Rouge Caroubier, kind of matching the barrel.

I have two or three other assorted Chinese pens on a porcelain tray waiting for loading. Will report back.

#13 SylvainP

SylvainP

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 54 posts
  • Location:Canada
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 17:10

Got a jinhao x750 couple day ago but it skip and dry out often. I like the size and weight of the pen and it's quite nice in flat black.

Tried combination of removing breather tube, removing spring, moving the feed, deep cleaning of everything and it still skip and dry out. At least now it's more juicy than it was.

The nib is scratchy (left or right not down or up) too.

The worst part of these pen is the stupidly small converter in a quite large size pen but it seems to be common practice of many manufacturer not just chinese.

I have another x750 coming from xfountainpen with a set of nibs, will try to build one good x750 out of two.

#14 Kaptenmork

Kaptenmork

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 453 posts
  • Location:Singapore
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 17:17

?!?! Isn't a 329 fine enough the right way up?


ah! this is interesting, are all 329 the same? one size fits...all?

anyway, when I turn my hero upsidedown, it will write soo thin, like a hair, and it will be perfect even on the most
difficult paper, I have other pens who also can write this way but the hero seems to write the thinnest line... :cloud9:

#15 FloridaMike

FloridaMike

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 17:18

My Jinghao X450, which has become a near-daily writer. Robust, cheap, and wet… just how I like my coffee.
If you assume 90% of what I say about the law is either naked self-promotion or zealous advocacy on behalf of my clients, then you'll never be disappointed. @mikewas

ACQUIRED! Levenger Seas/Sheaffer Connaisseur Tasman

#16 SylvainP

SylvainP

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 54 posts
  • Location:Canada
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 17:47

Funny thing yesterday at night I tried removing the tube and the spring and moving the feed closer to the tip of nib and today my x750 works nicely so far. I also change ink from noodler's to quink.

#17 jsolares

jsolares

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 136 posts
  • Location:Guatemala
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 17:53

Does a made in china sheaffer count? haven't bought one from a chinese brand yet tho, i already have 4 FP (2 safaris, 1 preppy that i got with noodlers ink and the prelude) and i don't write much (if at all) in the day so more pens would be crazy, but that kaigelu 316 white veined is soo nice :puddle:

#18 Flounder

Flounder

    Forum Moderate

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,557 posts
  • Location:Glasgow, Scotland

Posted 26 January 2012 - 18:47

:ninja:



Posted Image


I am once again meddling in forces I don't understand, this time with the aid of a black Hero 616 Jumbo.






Latest pen related post @ flounders-mindthots.blogspot.com : Retro 51 Tornado Bocote Hardwood Rollerball, a Review


#19 Scrawler

Scrawler

    The pen is an extension of my mind

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,502 posts
  • Location:A clearing in the forest, Canada
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 19:09

Got a jinhao x750 couple day ago but it skip and dry out often. I like the size and weight of the pen and it's quite nice in flat black.

Tried combination of removing breather tube, removing spring, moving the feed, deep cleaning of everything and it still skip and dry out. At least now it's more juicy than it was.

The nib is scratchy (left or right not down or up) too.

The worst part of these pen is the stupidly small converter in a quite large size pen but it seems to be common practice of many manufacturer not just chinese.

I have another x750 coming from xfountainpen with a set of nibs, will try to build one good x750 out of two.

This particular pen is very easy to turn into a very nice writer. Usually all that is required is to carefully flush it to remove any residue of manufacture followed by a little very simple nib work. The principle cause of scratchiness side to side is misalignment of the tines. Take a 30X magnifying glass and look at the end of the tines and make sure they align properly. Bend the lower one up carefully till they align. The next step is to floss and shim the nib. Use a thin sheet of brass foil for this purpose, not a hard razor knife, because they can scratch the plating off. Spread the tines by flossing with the brass shim. As you floss push the shim into the ink channel in the feed and carefully draw it in and out. Then put the shim between the nib and the feed and make sure the nib is evenly spaced above the feed. After doing this smooth the nib gently by drawing figure 8 half a dozen or so times on 5.0 micron abrasive film. Press down and roll the nib from side to side as you draw. Then repeat on 0.5 micron film. Do not over do it. If you cannot get the film, use a brown paper bag, but you will have to do repetitions. You should end up with a very smooth juicy pen.

#20 miwishi63

miwishi63

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 59 posts
  • Location:Peoria, IL
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2012 - 22:29

A Baoer 8 Horses loaded with BSB. Love it!

#21 SylvainP

SylvainP

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 54 posts
  • Location:Canada
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:36

[/quote]
This particular pen is very easy to turn into a very nice writer. Usually all that is required is to carefully flush it to remove any residue of manufacture followed by a little very simple nib work. The principle cause of scratchiness side to side is misalignment of the tines. Take a 30X magnifying glass and look at the end of the tines and make sure they align properly. Bend the lower one up carefully till they align. The next step is to floss and shim the nib. Use a thin sheet of brass foil for this purpose, not a hard razor knife, because they can scratch the plating off. Spread the tines by flossing with the brass shim. As you floss push the shim into the ink channel in the feed and carefully draw it in and out. Then put the shim between the nib and the feed and make sure the nib is evenly spaced above the feed. After doing this smooth the nib gently by drawing figure 8 half a dozen or so times on 5.0 micron abrasive film. Press down and roll the nib from side to side as you draw. Then repeat on 0.5 micron film. Do not over do it. If you cannot get the film, use a brown paper bag, but you will have to do repetitions. You should end up with a very smooth juicy pen.
[/quote]

Thanks for the informations I played with the pen tonight and found that the tines doesn't have the same profile. One tine go higher than the other midway and even if I align them at the end, in the middle it still a little bit higher. Will wait for my nib kit to switch it with a better one. The feed channel was quite dirty and almost closed in a section so I used aluminum sheet but it's hard to keep it in the channel. I'll try to find some brass foil this WE. In the mean time I use a blade to give the channel a slight V shape. It's a good pen to experiment and I have another one coming anyway.

Where can I find the micron abrasive film ? should I try in crafting store, air plane model store or something like that ?

#22 Scrawler

Scrawler

    The pen is an extension of my mind

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,502 posts
  • Location:A clearing in the forest, Canada
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:14

Thanks for the informations I played with the pen tonight and found that the tines doesn't have the same profile. One tine go higher than the other midway and even if I align them at the end, in the middle it still a little bit higher. Will wait for my nib kit to switch it with a better one. The feed channel was quite dirty and almost closed in a section so I used aluminum sheet but it's hard to keep it in the channel. I'll try to find some brass foil this WE. In the mean time I use a blade to give the channel a slight V shape. It's a good pen to experiment and I have another one coming anyway.

Where can I find the micron abrasive film ? should I try in crafting store, air plane model store or something like that ?


Micron abrasive is available from Lee Valley tools and similar shops: http://www.leevalley...004&cat=1,43072
The dirty feed channel will make the pen run too dry. It can be cleaned by flushing with ammonia solution (10%-20% strength)
If you are getting a new nib, you will lose nothing experimenting with this one. Use your thumbnail to raise the lower tine, gently and see how much pressure is needed to bend it up slightly.
The brass shims are 2 or 3 times thicker than aluminum foil. Even with brass shims it takes practice. But once you have done one nib, you will have the confidence to tackle any other in future, so experiment.

#23 richardandtracy

richardandtracy

    Museum Piece

  • Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,825 posts
  • Location:Kent, UK
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:16

Decided to ring the changes today.
A Jinhao Century in blue 'celluloid' (actually acrylic acetate) and a Kaigelu 306.

The Jinhao is a great writer, and the Kaigelu is almost as good as a P61. I just wish it had a medium rather than fine nib.

Regards,

Richard.

#24 sajiskumar

sajiskumar

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 148 posts
  • Location:Trivandrum, INDIA
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:52

3 Hero 616 with black ink. All writes instantly every time, even those kept unused for many weeks.

#25 filedog

filedog

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 69 posts
  • Location:New Mexico, USA

Posted 27 January 2012 - 15:04

A hero 316 in red and a Wing Sung 322. I think BOTH of them were $5 (on sale).
Crazy. They both write well out of the box, and start right up easily.
The WS is a bit more nicely finished and attractive.
"Yeah, but it's GOOD plastic" - Tony Fitzsimmons

#26 ISW_Kaputnik

ISW_Kaputnik

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 677 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 15:26

A Wing Sung 322. Cost me $1.50 from ISellPens. Okay, there was $6 postage, but that was spread across several other items on the order.

Just got it on a whim, and it's pretty ugly with a cheap gold stars motif, but it writes amazingly well, definitely a keeper. Filled with Diamine Asa Blue at the moment.
“If you make people think they’re thinking, they’ll love you; but if you really make them think, they’ll hate you.” -- Don Marquis

#27 Wh3r3sWald0

Wh3r3sWald0

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Location:Matthews
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 15:33

Returning to fountain pens after a long 15 year hiatus. This is also my very first post here, although I have been lurking for months. I had a Cross Classic which through various moves was lost in a box in the attic somewhere, so I needed a new pen. Finances are tight and cheap was the key word while looking for a pen so Chinese or ROC pens seem to be my best choices. I just didn't really expect them to be as good as my old Cross and in some cases even better. In just two short months I started with a Jinhao 9009 M nib, a good writer, starts every time. Bought a few ink samples from Goulet (no affiliation), but settled on PR Tanzanite. It was my everyday pen, banishing ball points and gel pens to the back of the drawer. Then a Baoer Eight Horses M nib. This pen turned into a backup since it is a bit of a slow starter and a bit drier writer than the Jinhao, it could also be the Diamine Sunset its filled with. Since then I have purchased too TWSBI's, a 540 and a 540 ROC with M and F nibs respectively. The 540 is my regular daily use pen, while technically not China Chinese, it it still ROC Chinese. I like the 540 ROC better but until I finish the Caran d'Ache Amazon it's inked with I will only use it to play with.

What I didn't know is how addicting Chinese made pens could become. As inexpensive as they are it is fun to 'take a gamble' on which one will turn out to be a gem in disguise. So far I purchased one for my wife and daughter. My wife got a Jinhao Morbidezza, which will likely get replaced by something a bit daintier. My daughter has an even less expensive Hero Accountant Pen, and wants another more ornate pen.

I am now waiting on several more Chinese pens, since many places are closed during the Chinese holidays the wait has made me even more anxious. Three more pens should be here in a couple of weeks: Dolce Vita Naranja, Yiren 823 in Orange Marble and a Baoer 817 Exquisite Orange. Besides these I have several other Chinese pens in my eBay watch list. I will try to make my next post in the Introductions forum.

#28 Sailor Kenshin

Sailor Kenshin

    Heart of sword

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,482 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 27 January 2012 - 16:06

The Duke I am test-driving has the number 2008 on it.

It's a pretty impressive-looking flat-top, with a channeled silvertone barrel and a red cap with clouds all over. Kind of a heavyweight, too, though usually I prefer lightweights.

I have a few other Chinese pens that await tweaking and possibly stubbing. None of those are Hero or other 'name' brands, but they, too, look impressive, and at their price point (not one of them more than $8) I don't feel too bad about trying to improve the flow or stub-sperimentation.

#29 Muncle

Muncle

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 487 posts

Posted 27 January 2012 - 19:07

A Baoer 8 Horses loaded with BSB. Love it!


I've been carrying around an 8 Horses with Zhivago. I tend to have to sign stuff throughout the day, and I like the bulletproofness along with the nice zig my Baoer give my signature.

#30 lovemy51

lovemy51

    legal? of course... and with all my papers. FP-friendly, mostly

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,482 posts
  • Location:near my pens and inks

Posted 27 January 2012 - 20:45

The Duke I am test-driving has the number 2008 on it.

It's a pretty impressive-looking flat-top, with a channeled silvertone barrel and a red cap with clouds all over. Kind of a heavyweight, too, though usually I prefer lightweights.

I have a few other Chinese pens that await tweaking and possibly stubbing. None of those are Hero or other 'name' brands, but they, too, look impressive, and at their price point (not one of them more than $8) I don't feel too bad about trying to improve the flow or stub-sperimentation.

can u show us a pic of that Duke?
Lovemy51 Posted Image




pleese, forgeeve my bad espelling!! Posted Image