Pelikan pens made in WWII

[omicron]

I wish I had a Nazi pen, so that I could sing "Springtime for Hitler" everytime I wrote something.

[RLTodd]

Thinking about this, I would think German pens from the 1939-1945 period would be rare. The chemicals for Celuloid would be critical to the ammunition industry, rubber would be a scarce resource, and as mentioned the military would soak up the available gold reserves. Then there would be the demand of war industries for skilled technicians from the pen manufacturing lines.

 

For comparison, the U.S.A. which had vastly larger access to such resources and man power, just about shut down writing instrument production for war work between 1941 and 1945.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Like Swan in England, Soennecken was destroyed completely by bombing.

 

I have two WW2 pens, with no cap bands, just a pressing of little slots. I have one that still had trim, before the mid war.

One of them though a 'no name' has a Degussa Full Flex nib on it..

 

There had to be some pen production, no ball points.

 

The Pelikan steel nibs were as good as steel ever was, and that is dammed good = to gold.

Osmia made such good steel nibs in the pre- war '30's the Supra nib.

 

After the war Tropen, which had always been major as exporter, and minor in the home market, was selling 100,000's of pens to the English.

[Fuddlestack]

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I might throw in here that there are very few goods actually made in the US anymore. More to the point, I guess that there are actually few if any fine pens made in the US anymore. Cross pens are all made in China. Of course Parker is all European.

 

Which, if any, have a USA pedigree?

 

Bexley.

[Fuddlestack]

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Recently on eBay (http://tinyurl.com/azsoog) there was an interesting bit of Nazi history. This Pel 100 has an engraving on the cap: KARL DINKLAGE WERK NSDAP

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As in Germany, it is illegal to sell Nazi memorabilia in France, and that URL ends up at an eBay listing that has apparently been withdrawn. I'd be interested to know if it really has been, or if eBay are simply applying a country-based filter.

 

Can anyone else still get in there?

 

In a somewhat macabre little offshoot of this legislation, years ago the UK company Airfix were prosecuted in Germany for selling model kits of Third Reich aeroplanes that showed swastikas on the tailfins.

[Ispriluc]

I purchased a Mont Blanc fountain pen at a flee market in Sofia Bulgaria in 2001. The pen is black in color, the cap is imprented in white letters, "GERMANY 1939", the pen's silver clip and band are inscribed "Mont Blanc 925", there is a prominent eagle over a swastica at the top of the clip. I can't find any historical data on the pen?

 

 

Could you please post a picture with the pen? Thank you.

[Albert26]

Well, you may be interested in this pen:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322700017740

 

During the war, the use of gold was forbidden for non-military purposes, so the pen companies switched to steel nibs and, in the case of this rare Montblanc pen, palladium nibs. And no, I am not the seller of the pen.

 

What about those lovely Pelikans 101N? I think they were introduced around the 1930s or so. Oh, how I would love to own one of them!

Edited September 24, 2017 by Albert26

[Bo Bo Olson]

May of 1943** no more fountain pens were made in Germany in supplies were needed for the war and the skilled workers who hadn't been drafted were making war materials in the pen factory.

 

** Read that in a CD I have on Kaweco pens.

"In the German Reichsanzeiger (German pre&war gazette) dated 19 th of March 1945, the production of fountain pens and fountain pen parts was prohibited, with effect from the 1 st of May 1943 on"

[Albert26]

May of 1943** no more fountain pens were made in Germany in supplies were needed for the war and the skilled workers who hadn't been drafted were making war materials in the pen factory.

 

** Read that in a CD I have on Kaweco pens.

"In the German Reichsanzeiger (German pre&war gazette) dated 19 th of March 1945, the production of fountain pens and fountain pen parts was prohibited, with effect from the 1 st of May 1943 on"

That must have been after Herr Goebbels's famous speech "Wollt ihr denn totaler Krieg?"

[TheRealMikeDr]

Well, you may be interested in this pen:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322700017740

 

During the war, the use of gold was forbidden for non-military purposes, so the pen companies switched to steel nibs and, in the case of this rare Montblanc pen, palladium nibs. And no, I am not the seller of the pen.

 

What about those lovely Pelikans 101N? I think they were introduced around the 1930s or so. Oh, how I would love to own one of them!

 

What a beautiful pen! And a unique piece of history. Sadly it's a bit beyond my current budget.

[Bo Bo Olson]

CN nibs....some are first stage of superflex, Easy Full Flex....in someone has one that is more flexible than his Osmia Supra nib. I'd heard always they were superflex.

Mine is only regular flex. No one ever, ever mentioned that. Had anyone said that I could have asked for one of the more flexible ones being sold.

 

I do have four or five War Pens, they are missing the metal cap ring. All are pressed with some hatching, single line or other so you know it's just not missing the band over the ages, but was made with out the cap band. They pressed the plastic also to hope to make it last longer.

Could have worked, in I have 5 with out really chasing them.

Some were chrome steel.

Edited September 24, 2017 by Bo Bo Olson

[Richard]

Late to the party, but in case anyone is still interested in the Karl Dincklage-Werk, it was a project that used special NSDAP funding for the orphan children of war victims. Dincklage himself had nothing to do with it; the project was set up on Hitler's orders as a tribute to him after he died in December 1930.

Edited May 21, 2018 by Richard

[Claud]

Please allow me to add a bit of color to this discussion. Here is my Pelikan WWII model 100. I do not think it is an "N". It does not give me the creeps and it is in use most days. I bought it here in our classifieds no that long ago.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Besides CN...what else does the nib say....in it don't look like Pelikan.

[Claud]

Bo Bo, all it says on this nib is "Pelikan" and "CN".

Edited May 21, 2018 by Claud

[Bo Bo Olson]

Couldn't read it....there is nothing wrong with that pen.

Folks buy antique Mercedes or BMW's from that era with out a tinge of conscious.

 

In '72 I went to Dachau concentration camp; there was a Lutheran preacher who was doing penance by being there every day. He did not make a stand and die like other Priests and preachers he knew who did and died there.

And Dachau was perhaps the 'best' concentration camp to have a hope of surviving.

 

My passed father-in-law was a front line German Paratrooper from start to finish. I don't remember which concentration camp, as a prisoner of war, the Americans had him cleaning it/burying folks up for some days. While there, a living skeleton woman, shared her bread with him, in he had none.

 

That many could have known, or had to have known something was not Kosher, none wanted to know.

He had had no idea.

 

And if you did know like the many near Dachau, a big mouth was major problems, including a one way trip.

That and propaganda....which the Americans should know, now they have so much, is/was so pervasive; that morals is/were twisted and destroyed in the normal non thinking folk.

 

Allowing anyone to know they thought, meant being informed on, and by one's kids, if not the neighbor. No job, nor ration card....and off they went in an over filled freight car.

Edited May 22, 2018 by Bo Bo Olson

[Claud]

I don't know if you remember, but this is the pen I posted about not being able to remove the nib. Its a good writer. I just keep ink in it and clean it occasionally , not treating it like a museum piece.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I'm glad you use yours, my 100n hasn't been inked in a couple of years....I might do that soon, in I now have a few more jewelry bracelet boxes I put my better pens in, so they don't get put in the pen cup.

 

How ever, I now have 20 pens inked....and need to get down to 12.