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A trick with carbon blacks


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As dye-based inks feather, and suspension inks don't, one can achieve some interesting effects by mixing them. I've mixed

Sailor Extreme Black (a carbon black) with Diamine Vermillion (a dye-based red-orange), and wrote on slightly damp paper with it. The results are that the suspension stays put while the dye feathers, creating a colored border. See the scans.

 

http://i43.tinypic.com/161yuew.jpg

 

Closeup:

 

http://i44.tinypic.com/2w7rgnp.png

 

As to what to call this, I suggest "layering."

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Thank you, Rhenze, for demonstrating in principle how to achieve a red-black ink as I imagined it for myself. Noodler's Red Black, PR Black Cherry or De Atramentis Ebony all are some kind of dark red-brown ink, but not red-black. I wanted a black with red overtones and borders.

 

Of course your use of damp paper is for clearly demonstrating the effect, and I assume on dry paper the borders of both ink components will be crisper and the red border itself narrower, as I would like it.

Obviously Sailor Kiwaguro Black and Diamine inks mix well, so once I might try another Diamine red component more to my liking.

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Since only the Black component of Noodlers Red/Black and Blue/Black inks are Bulletproof (waterproof), I'd guess that they would exhibit a similar behavior on damp paper.

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Since only the Black component of Noodlers Red/Black and Blue/Black inks are Bulletproof (waterproof), I'd guess that they would exhibit a similar behavior on damp paper.

I doubt it. Just because an ink is bulletproof doesn't mean it won't run or smear, especially when it's on wet paper.

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Since only the Black component of Noodlers Red/Black and Blue/Black inks are Bulletproof (waterproof), I'd guess that they would exhibit a similar behavior on damp paper.

 

Damp paper makes liquid stuff run farther. As long as it's liquid, it will move. The black component of Sailor Extreme Black is solid. I think the only way Noodlers Red Black can have that effect is if the black component moves less than the red component, or if you wrote it on dry paper, and then made it wet so that the red component feathers and the waterproof black component doesn't.

 

And the colored border effect works also on dry paper just as dye-based inks feather on dry paper.

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A touch of pizazz after all...quite interesting.

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Some years ago, there was a line of metallic paint-markers that were specifically designed for this effect: the ink contained both a colored dye and a metallic pigment, and so long as it was used on a porous material, it produced a metallic line with a colored border.

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And to those who suggested color fringing with ordinary inks on wet paper, contragulations: you just rediscovered paper chromatography. :P

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