LAMY T10 Cartridges - how much ink!?!

[Edgar Allan Bo]

The LAMY T10 Cartridges are pretty expensive - 1,75 € for a pack of 5 T10 cartridges in stores here! (in some stores even more!)

 

In the same store I can get the LAMY bottle of 30 ml for 3,00 €

 

So, I was thinking... I read somewhere that the long standard cartridge contains 1,5 ml of ink... the LAMY T10 cartridge seems to have similar amount of ink inside - 1,5 ml!?! To go up to 30 ml I must buy 4 Packs of cartridges - 4 x 1,75 € = 7€ for 30 ml ink in cartridges! But only 3,00 € for 30 ml in a bottle!

 

That's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference, specially for me as a student... so I think I'll buy few bottles and reload my empty cartridges with a syringe instead of bying new cartridges!

 

But doe's the T10 cartridge really have 1,5 ml of ink inside!?!

[Jerry A]

The LAMY T10 Cartridges are pretty expensive - 1,75 € for a pack of 5 T10 cartridges in stores here! (in some stores even more!)

 

In the same store I can get the LAMY bottle of 30 ml for 3,00 €

 

So, I was thinking... I read somewhere that the long standard cartridge contains 1,5 ml of ink... the LAMY T10 cartridge seems to have similar amount of ink inside - 1,5 ml!?! To go up to 30 ml I must buy 4 Packs of cartridges - 4 x 1,75 € = 7€ for 30 ml ink in cartridges! But only 3,00 € for 30 ml in a bottle!

 

That's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference, specially for me as a student... so I think I'll buy few bottles and reload my empty cartridges with a syringe instead of bying new cartridges!

 

But doe's the T10 cartridge really have 1,5 ml of ink inside!?!

 

I believe that the T10 holds about 1.1 - 1.2 ml of ink. The 1.5 ml carts are the international long, which are considerably bigger than the T10.

[techman]

I have gotten two weeks of writing at work out of a cartridge so far and there is still some in there somewhere.I can't see it but it is still writing. That doesn't tell you much though.

Edited October 31, 2008 by techman

[Edgar Allan Bo]

I believe that the T10 holds about 1.1 - 1.2 ml of ink. The 1.5 ml carts are the international long, which are considerably bigger than the T10.

 

yeah, I was thinking the same, even if the LAMY cartridge seems little bit wider - it's much shorter, I just tried a syringe and I would say it's somewhere about 1,2 ml

 

But that's even worse because the price difference is now even larger :blink: ...so let's say it's 1,2 ml - then I will have to buy 6 packs of cartridges to have 30 ml of ink, and that would cost me 8,75 €, while the bottle of 30 ml costs only 3,00 €! :roflmho:

 

There are also those cartridges with one side LAMY and the other side standard point and these are much cheaper, but I can't part with the LAMY Black with that nice blueish undertone, it looks so much cooler than the brownish/black blacks in other cartridges that also will fit a LAMY pen!

 

Anyhow, I'm buying LAMY bottles from now on!

Edited October 31, 2008 by sk2yshine

[sasdrtx]

I'd wager a large majority of FPN members use bottled ink almost exclusively. I do, but mainly to use inks that Lamy, or Sheaffer, or Parker, don't make. And I like collecting ink bottles... obviously cartridges aren't much use for that.

 

Cartridges are all about convenience; and the extra cost to cover all that plastic, and the manufacturing process to fill them, costs more than a glass jar that can easily be filled.

[Possum Hill]

I've been curious about ink cartridge capacity, so I filled several with water. I used a syringe starting with water at the 2 ml mark on the syringe; capacity is the difference between starting and ending marks on the syringe. I made only one measurement per cartridge - not very thorough, but it will give a rough idea of relative capacities.

 

Short international (Pelikan): 0.75 ml

 

Long international (Pelikan): 1.3 ml

 

Standard Pilot/Namiki: .9 ml

 

Pilot Petit1: 0.65 ml

 

Sheaffer (new style): 1.7 ml

 

Lamy T10: 1.15 ml

 

Platinum: 1.1 ml

[Limerick]

Yes, in general, ink in cartridges are more expensive than ink in bottles. And Lamy cartridges are more expensive than Pelikan ones, but I think the price is justified given the quality. I have become crazy because of the durability of Waterman cartridges - the screwed up as easily as if they were of paper! Pelikan cartridges are a bit better but still very easy to break. Lamy and Parker cartridges are fairly durable; though this might be useless for those who throw their cartridges away, for those who like to refill their cartridges this is a gift and worth to pay.

So refilling Lamy cartridges is a fair business, as far as I'm concerned.

[hexadecimal]

I use bottled ink almost exclusively - but I still keep a couple of Lamy T10s at hand in case I run out while I'm away from my precious fluids.

 

Doesn't happen too often - less often than I forget to charge my mobile ('cell') phone - but it'll happen when it is of maximum inconvenience.

 

Boy Scouts: Be Prepared!

[techman]

I am surprised with my first cartridge on my lamy alstar(yes, I am a newbie). At about the week and a half mark I could not see any ink in the cartridge. Now, at two and a half weeks(almost) I am still writing with it. I am impressed. So far cartridges don't bother me. I could save with ink though. I have my converter and herbin pervenche waiting. If this cartridge runs out. That is.

Edited November 3, 2008 by techman

[andyk]

Hi,

 

Price looks quite cheap to me, in the UK some places are £2.29 (about 2.86 Euros), only Lamy I have that uses carts is a Vista, so I use a converter most of the time, but have a few cartridges which I fill from time to time. cartridges are convenient to carry, but always work out more expensive even if you buy in bulk.

 

Andy

[Ducttapeearth]

Yeah, you're pretty much right. I remember having the same epiphany a while ago. They're even pricier in the US; I payed $3.25 for 5 (about €2,50). Once you use bottled ink, you'll never go back though. The Lamy colors are so drab compared to other brands.

[anchorschmidt]

Thank you for the volumes in millilitres.

 

I completely agree. The Lamy converter was a boon for me and my Nexx. I swapped the medium with a fine nib on my Nexx after a few months of extensive usage (medium was too wide for maths), and then I found that the dry Lamy ink wrote way too dry for the Fine nib and I was having a scratchy experience.

 

I tried some Parker Quink (didn't fade for me) and it immediately became an extremely smooth writer (with adequate feedback). Waterman Florida blue is also good (but not as good). Pelikan 4001 is a relatively dry ink.

 

I think wetter inks work very well with the Lamy while medium-dry inks work better on my TWSBI.

[Patrician]

I invite those who read this thread to measure the capacity of the carts by themselves and then judge the accuracy ( or the intention) of the provided data. Lamy carts hold 1.3ml (Lamy itself provides the information but it can be easily measured). If your refill them with a syringe, even more. Same goes for most carts.

[Lt.Tom]

(post deleted because it made no sense.)

 

- Tom -

Edited April 26, 2012 by Lt.Tom

[Patrician]

Lt. Tom, it actually made sense to me, you're right. There are three possible measures given same pressure etc.; 1. The max. capacity of the cartridge. 2. The amount of ink manufacturers introduce in it, and 3.The ml found when measured, that may vary as concentration by evaporation is not infrequent if storage conditions are not ideal.

Thank you for point it out to me.