Pilot Custom 823

[Siv]

Well I took a pair of pliers to the most expensive pen I own today. Here's the result...

 

Has anyone else tried this? Given that it's a clear pen, it's not that much of a challenge as you can see which bits are threaded and unscrew. The bit I came stuck with is the cap - has anyone managed to disassemble the cap?

[jimk]

Wow, that takes courage! Thanks for posting the great photo - that is a wonderful reference for any of us that need to get in there to fix something.

 

Please do let us know how the reassembly goes - any challenges that arise!

 

It's really great that the section unscrews to permit a more thorough flushing - I hope I never have to take things further than that!

[Dillo]

Hi,

 

I think the caps on カスタム pens come apart when you unscrew the top black piece.

 

Dillon

[chkuo]

Wow. Very cool picture, thanks for sharing.

[burmeseboyz]

Could you please pretty please give us a quick guide as to how you did that? I would be very appreciative of that.

[FrankB]

Why?

[RevAaron]

Ah, didn't know the plunger assembly unscrewed! Thanks for sharing this.

[Siv]

Could you please pretty please give us a quick guide as to how you did that? I would be very appreciative of that.

 

Actually, the only time I used the pliers was to remove the plunger bit. When you unscrew the plunger and pull it out, you can see that there are two flat bits on the threaded piece. I just gripped this with my pliers and unscrewed normally.

 

The nib and feed just pull out - grab them firmly and pull straight out. The section unscrews and is finger tight so you can unscrew this easily. Actually if you unscrew the section a little, it may be easier to pull out the nib and feed.

 

Finally, there is a black threaded plug that the section screws in to. This is easy to unscrew, also by hand...

 

Edit: I tried to unscrew the black bit at the end of the cap and it turns but doesn't unscrew. I think it may be a push fit... anyone have any insight?

Edited October 3, 2008 by Siv

[Getsurin]

Siv, why did you want to disassemble your beautiful and expensive pen?

[Siv]

Siv, why did you want to disassemble your beautiful and expensive pen?

 

'cause I want to get the metal bits Rhodinated

[RevAaron]

I got no beef with disassembling beautiful pens- the only truly beautiful pen worth the extra expense is one you can field strip.

 

Siv, I noticed the same thing on the 823 I bought from you. It's something I've seen on a lot of piston fillers, and how I've taken the piston out them, mostly some vintage Kawecos. Never occured to me to try it on the 823, though I suppose that was beacuse it was on loan originally. "Here, sir, is your pen back... In parts!"

 

Aaron

[enricof]

Siv, why did you want to disassemble your beautiful and expensive pen?

 

'cause I want to get the metal bits Rhodinated

 

Considering doing the same on a black or clear 823.

 

Have you been able to do it?

Where can it be done (pen master, jeweler)?

 

Is it necessary to remove the trim rings to do it?

 

Thanks

 

[Ron Z]

Don't over tighten when reassembling. I have one in the shop now that had developed stress cracks at both ends.

[enricof]

Don't over tighten when reassembling. I have one in the shop now that had developed stress cracks at both ends.

 

Thanks Ron for the tip.

[Siv]

Siv, why did you want to disassemble your beautiful and expensive pen?

 

'cause I want to get the metal bits Rhodinated

 

Considering doing the same on a black or clear 823.

 

Have you been able to do it?

Where can it be done (pen master, jeweler)?

 

Is it necessary to remove the trim rings to do it?

 

Thanks

 

I didn't manage to do it because I couldn't take the trim rings off the cap. I didn't want to apply too much pressure on the bits as they are plastic so until I can find a way to get the trim off the cap, the pen is going to remain gold!

[nicholasyeo]

Exactly! Get them Rhodinated...

[conib]

 

Edit: I tried to unscrew the black bit at the end of the cap and it turns but doesn't unscrew. I think it may be a push fit... anyone have any insight?

 

 

Okay, six years later but maybe this will help give someone a lead on disassembly:

 

The 823 cap looks to be the same construction as my Custom 98 cap, and I've been able to remove the inner cap on the Custom 98 with a 1/4" socket driver (using its ~1/4" square head sans socket). The clip and trim ring do remain attached to the finial, but once the inner cap is removed, that clip-trim ring-finial assembly detaches from the cap.

 

-- Constance

[E8x8]

 

Okay, six years later but maybe this will help give someone a lead on disassembly:

 

The 823 cap looks to be the same construction as my Custom 98 cap, and I've been able to remove the inner cap on the Custom 98 with a 1/4" socket driver (using its ~1/4" square head sans socket). The clip and trim ring do remain attached to the finial, but once the inner cap is removed, that clip-trim ring-finial assembly detaches from the cap.

 

-- Constance

 

Maybe the one dimensional lighting from a pocket flashlight is hiding it, but I cannot see anything inside the 823 cap that a socket driver would fit onto.

 

BTW, thanks for resurrecting this thread. This is interesting and useful knowledge.

[TREBFPN]

Hi. Any new information? I happen to have fallen on the same trail. I would love if that black cap were clear. I wonder if the Pilot 823 clone, a TWSBI VAC700's parts could be used to modify the Pilot 823? Anyway, first, the cap. Since the the two pens are the same construction - this video shows how to disassemble the VAC700 cap,

 

Edited September 23, 2014 by TREBFPN

[Algester]

the plunger might fit infact you can use the TWSBI wrench to unscrew it I'm not sure about the nib unit...