Which bullet-proof blue-black?

[juhtolv]

I am looking for bullet-proof blue-black ink for my Waterman Philéas blue-black-marble fountain pen. It seems I have two alternatives:

• Noodler's Ink Legal Lapis (Pendemonium exclusive)
• Noodler's Ink Prussian Blue (missing-pen.de exclusive)

Well, which one I should choose? Do you have any opinions?

[Stephen-I-am]

Well, which one I should choose? Do you have any opinions?

 

There are about a billion reviews of legal lapis (it's very well liked, though I sold my bottle, so tastes vary) -- I think you should choose the prussian blue and write a review.

 

Stephen

[Galliver]

I am looking for bullet-proof blue-black ink for my Waterman Philéas blue-black-marble fountain pen. It seems I have two alternatives:

• Noodler's Ink Legal Lapis (Pendemonium exclusive)
• Noodler's Ink Prussian Blue (missing-pen.de exclusive)

Well, which one I should choose? Do you have any opinions?

 

I have not tried Legal Lapis, but I have a bottle of Prussian Blue. I do not consider it a blue-black. Personally, I find it a little too washed out to use by its self and have mixed it 1:1 with Visconti Blue for a good mostly waterproof blue. If you want it as a blue-black, you would have to mix it with some Noodler's Black. I mixed up a batch that I like at a ratio of 1:5 Black to Prussian Blue.

[scribbler77]

I am looking for bullet-proof blue-black ink for my Waterman Philéas blue-black-marble fountain pen. It seems I have two alternatives:

• Noodler's Ink Legal Lapis (Pendemonium exclusive)
• Noodler's Ink Prussian Blue (missing-pen.de exclusive)

Well, which one I should choose? Do you have any opinions?

 

 

You might also consider Noodler's Ellis Island (a Fountain Pen Hospital exclusive). The color is very much like a traditional blue-black. There have been some reviews.

[angel]

Have you considered Noodler's Blue-Black?

[tfwall]

The Prussian is very washed out and "chalky". It doesn't come out looking brilliant or deep and clogs most of my pens. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

[pmsalty]

I second the recommendation for Ellis Island (Fountain Pen Hospital exclusive). I loaded it a Parker "51" and its wonderful. Good blue-black color and in my water test it did not run off or rub off when run under the tap for 30 seconds.

PMS

[Celeste]

The Prussian is very washed out and "chalky". It doesn't come out looking brilliant or deep and clogs most of my pens. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

 

 

I don't suppose you'd post a sample of this? I have been very curious to see what it looks like. Thanks!

[juhtolv]

You might also consider Noodler's Ellis Island (a Fountain Pen Hospital exclusive). The color is very much like a traditional blue-black. There have been some reviews.

 

It is not bullet-proof.

[juhtolv]

Have you considered Noodler's Blue-Black?

 

It is not totally bullet-proof.

[nimrod]

If you can't find anything else you could probably mix polar blue and polar black.

[HDoug]

Speaking of mixes, I use a mix of bulletproofs to make a bulletproof blue black: New Old Bishop Street Blue Black. Deep, and a bit conservative, but I guess that's what blue-black is about... Just a possibility.

 

Doug

[mdblue]

Have you tried Swishmix Tahitian Pearl-it's similar to the LL, however more intense and dark and flows very freely. It's bulletproof and dries quickly.

 

[CharlieB]

I don't like either ink.... because they both have a greenish cast to them, as do many blue-black inks available on the market today.

[juhtolv]

Have you tried Swishmix Tahitian Pearl-it's similar to the LL, however more intense and dark and flows very freely. It's bulletproof and dries quickly.

 

This is what Chuck Swisher himself told about those Swishmix inks in alt.collecting.pens-pencils after making a phone call to Nathan Tardiff himself:

 

"All of the Noodler's Swishmix inks except for the True Rouge would have their bulletproof qualities reduced by approximately 20%. In other words, these inks are made with at least 75% of one of the Noodler's "bulletproof" inks and cannot be removed from paper without destroying the paper. The True Rouge might be erased with bleach, but it would also remove any watermarks in the paper so you could tell it had been tampered with. Hope this helps."

Edited November 15, 2007 by juhtolv

[juhtolv]

Speaking of mixes, I use a mix of bulletproofs to make a bulletproof blue black: New Old Bishop Street Blue Black. Deep, and a bit conservative, but I guess that's what blue-black is about... Just a possibility.

 

Quite interesting mix, but that Upper Ganges Blue is right now temporarily out of stock in Pendemonium. But I am going to buy that ink, anyway, because I am going to find good bullet-proof blue ink, too. Luxury Blue is chalky and Legal Blue is too greenish.

 

[juhtolv]

I think I will buy that Noodler's Ink Legal Lapis some day. BTW it has found its way to Inks of Choice -page of Glenn Marcus.

[fjf]

I am using platinum blue-black, a waterproof nice dark cobalt blue. Not bulletproof, I know. But would you shoot your writings anyway?.

[Stephen-I-am]

I don't like either ink.... because they both have a greenish cast to them, as do many blue-black inks available on the market today.

 

Interesting. I don't in general like the greenish cast to a lot of Noodlers' darker inks, and while legal lapis doesn't do it for me, Tahitian pearl I find to be a really nice color, which to me is a great match for the color of a Tahitian pearl.

 

Stephen

[emailastro]

I just made a dicovery. Noodlers Bullet Proof Black Ink is only bullet proof depending on the type of paper you use. I just wrote 2 letters on German staionery and 1 letter showed a smear I couldn't figure out what made it since the ink was dry. I dabbed a little bit of water on a paper towel and it washed almost completely off. I tested it on some other paper and it did not smear or wash out. I guess it could be the celuloid content in the paper. Noodlers claim it that once it is on the paper, the celuloid in the paper makes it permanent.