Sailor 1911

[wimg]

Hi Jeen,

 

I always had the impression that the Mosaics are slightly bigger brothers of the 1911. The last time I held both in my hands is over a year ago, so I can´t be entirely sure. Maybe someone with a Mosaic and/or a 1911 cares to do some measurements and post the results here...

 

Warm regards, Wim

[mafiablues]

some more links

 

http://www.sailor.co.jp/BUNGU/lineup_01.html

http://www.pen-house.net/pen/sailor/index.htm

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/penshop/

 

http://www.swisherpens.com/catalog/sailor/sailor.htm

 

it seems that there are 2 sizes of nib for the Profit series

- small, 14k or 21k, fit Magellan, Mosaic and Profit Standard

- big, only 21k

 

therefore Mosaic are "1911"M size

[Blade Runner]

Thanks again Mafiablues,

 

I'm considering the sterling version of the 1911. Have you any experience with it?

Interestingly it is largerst 1911 capped, but posted it is the same as the other full size 1911s.

The only drawback i can think of is that the mirror like finish will get microabrasions, but I'm a user, and that won't deter me. In fact, i think minor use marks give a pen some character, and I'd rather have a well used one with useage marks than a pristine one sitting around unused.

 

Regards,

Jeen

Edited October 16, 2005 by jeen

[mafiablues]

unfortunatly no.

my only Sailor pen is a Profit Standard with a M nib.

[Blade Runner]

Here's the reply from the Sailor representative from UK:

 

"Dear Jeen,

Thanks for your message.

We have changed the metal end trim on our products for this reason.

It is best to have no metal trim into the ink. We suggest you take one

of the new models to avoid the problem."

 

 

My Query:

 

Hello.

 

I am considering a Sailor fountain pen, but I am

concerned about the metal trim at the end of the grip

section and the possibility that it may corrode over

time as it has done on a Parker pen of mine.

 

Is this concern unwarranted for Sailor pens?

Is it OK to immerse this metal trim repeatedly in ink

when filling from a bottle? What is Sailor's

instruction for filling from the bottle?

 

I noticed that the latest version of 1911 sold on one

of the sites in the States no longer has this metal

trim next to the nib. May I ask why it was removed?

 

Many thanks,

Jeen Lee

[Roger]

As I may have mentioned, Jeen, the fairly new Professional Gear does not have the trim ring at the nib end of the section.

[Apollo]

Thanks for the update Jeen. It makes sense for them to update the 1911 by removing the trim, but it's kind of hard not getting any ink in that area if you fill directly from a bottle unless one does it carefully. It's not an issue if you use cartridge ink, but I suppose it's one of those things you have to live with if you have an older 1911.

[Mannenhitsu]

I have been thinking about buying one of these pens with "Zoom" nib rather than a medium or broad nib. Anyone have experience with a Sailor Zoom nib and how do they write?

[wimg]

Hi Ron,

 

I have some experience with it, and although it is a very, very smooth nib, I exchanged it for a completely different pen.

 

The nib really is mostly broad, unless you write with it at a highly elevated angle, like a BP, which I don't. Of course, you can reverse it for a smooth F, but to take it just for that is not the why you'd want to buy it in the first place.

 

The idea of a Zoom nib is that it has a similar effect as a small paint brush, where you, before you lift it from the paper, are drawing at right angles with the paper, or have overturned it slightly, IOW, it is meant for brush strokes. If you don't use it that way, or can't get the hang of using it that way, it is not for you, I would say, as you won't get a lot of width variance out of it.

 

Regarding returning the pen: it just didn't feel comfortable in my hand. It is a small, fairly thin pen, with distinct tapers, and it just caused my hand to cramp up somehow, even with different nibs.

 

The nibs are glassy smooth, though, and it is a quality pen, no doubt about it, and I felt sorry I had to let it go...

 

Fortunately, I ended up with another very nice pen instead...

 

Warm regards, Wim

[woodwindmaster06]

A little late maybe, but are you happy with the burgandy color you chose.

[memphislawyer]

apollo: i went to pentrace and some guy is selling them i think around $115 or so. sanders? or pooh pens? anyway, also considering the waterman charleston

 

can you compare them for this newbie?

 

sam

[Dillo]

apollo: i went to pentrace and some guy is selling them i think around $115 or so. sanders? or pooh pens? anyway, also considering the waterman charleston

 

can you compare them for this newbie?

 

sam

Hi,

 

I think the Sailor is better, but I highly recommend Jim from Poohcornerpens. When you buy ask him first, he has some excellent deals. Tell him I told you!

 

Dillon

[Apollo]

apollo: i went to pentrace and some guy is selling them i think around $115 or so. sanders? or pooh pens? anyway, also considering the waterman charleston

 

can you compare them for this newbie?

 

sam

Without question the Sailor 1911 is a better pen than the Waterman Charleston. Don't get me wrong. Waterman makes fine pens, but the first Charleston I had was a finicky writer and exhibited poor ink flow. About the only ink I could use in it was Parker Quink. I got rid of it and bought a second Charleston a couple of months later and it writes much better, but it's no Sailor.

[Betty]

Is there a Sailor 1911 with a silver/platinum colored trim as seen in this auction:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sailor-fountain-pen-pr...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

 

If there really was, then I'd be sooo happy! I never really liked gold. Thanks

 

I e-mailed PoohCornerPens and he believes it's because the pictures are monochrome and that's why the gold looks silver here

 

Thanks!

[Dillo]

Hi,

 

The pictures are indeed monchrome, but I am going to ask Sailor.

 

Dillon

[saintsimon]

Is there a Sailor 1911 with a silver/platinum colored trim ...

There is the sister model Sailor Professional Gear, which is available both black/silver and black/gold and the nib choices F, M and B.

 

http://www.andys-pens.ukhome.net/profgear.shtml

[Betty]

Is there a Sailor 1911 with a silver/platinum colored trim ...

There is the sister model Sailor Professional Gear, which is available both black/silver and black/gold and the nib choices F, M and B.

 

http://www.andys-pens.ukhome.net/profgear.shtml

Nib wise and writing wise, is it as good as the 1911? I keep reading nice stuff about the 1911, but hardly anything about the professional gear though. Which pen is wider?

[ChristopherH]

Is there a Sailor 1911 with a silver/platinum colored trim as seen in this auction:

There is in Japan, at least. http://www.pengallery.com/ (Malaysian) has it, I currently see it midway down the main page on the right hand side. In the pictures, it looks great in silver and black, and the trim ring has moved away from the nib.

 

Consider me seriously tempted.

[ChristopherH]

There is in Japan, at least.  http://www.pengallery.com/ (Malaysian) has it, I currently see it midway down the main page on the right hand side.  In the pictures, it looks great in silver and black, and the trim ring has moved away from the nib.

Another subtle difference: the Asian-market model also has a full rounded top to the cap, which appeals much more to me.

[Betty]

I broke down and ordered the silver trimmed Sailor 1911. At first, I thought it would be too wide for me, but when I tried it at the store, it was actually pretty comfortable, so fingers crossed that I'll love it when I get it.