Noodler's Socrates

[yazeh]

Noodler’s Socrates

 

This is a gorgeous purple, very wet but alas with long dry times on coated paper. Despite that, I enjoyed using it for sketching with a Japanese Ef or journaling in my Peter Pauper notebook with its thick absorbent paper. 

I would recommend it only with finer nibs on coated papers and with any nib on thick absorbent paper. It is surprisingly very well behaved on copy paper. 

Like most purples it has the tendency to stain clear sections, and I had to resort of a cleaning solution to clean my pen. 

This is pricier than the normal lineup of Noodler’s ink and I believe it was originally destined for the British Market.  

 

Let's start with the chroma:

 

 

 

Writing Samples:

 

 

While the scan shows ghosting, to the naked eye, there's none. 

Photo:

 

Comparison:

 

Water test:

 

 

And finally some art work: Socrates

and this was part of Inktober challenge, "old"

 

 

 

·      Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Lamy (EF/F/M/B, 1.1), 

·      What I liked: Very well behaved on copy paper. Gorgeous purple. 

·      What I did not like: Long dry times. 

·       What some might not like: Same as above. 

·      Shading: I didn’t see much. Nope. 

·      Ghosting: A bit when I used the flex nib. 

·      Bleed through: A few dots when I pressed hard. 

·      Flow Rate: Wet through

·      Lubrication: Slightly below average. 

·      Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. 

·      Start-up: Did not notice.

·      Saturation: Very saturated. 

·      Shading Potential: Dismal

·      Sheen: No.

·      Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice. 

·      Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.

·      Staining (pen): Yes

·      Clogging: No. 

·      Cleaning: Medium to high maintenance 

·      Water resistance: Excellent 

·      Availability: 3 oz, 90 ml bottles

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

 

[LizEF]

Yummy chroma - makes me want a grape Popsicle.   This is indeed a pretty purple.  Looks like the cream color of Midori paper serves to mute it a little, less so the TR 68gsm.  I has added this one to the list.

 

Meanwhile, on to the important bits... What!? No swatch kitty? Did Socrates hate cats, or something?   <- water-test kitty and his beard. And those ears - I'm thinking he's got some Oriental Shorthair in him.   Very well done on the line drawing of Socrates!  But best of all is Yoda-kitty!! And Mousey with his little light saber!    They're fabulous!

 

Thank you, Yazeh, for a great review of a lovely ink.

[yazeh]

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Yummy chroma - makes me want a grape Popsicle.  

😛

 

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

This is indeed a pretty purple.  Looks like the cream color of Midori paper serves to mute it a little, less so the TR 68gsm.  I has added this one to the list.

 

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Meanwhile, on to the important bits... What!? No swatch kitty?

Some of the swatches were done before the kitty swatch thingy

 

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Did Socrates hate cats, or something?

I doubt it  He was named the wisest man alive, by the oracle of Delphi, as he was the only one who aware of his ignorance

 

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

  <- water-test kitty and his beard. And those ears - I'm thinking he's got some Oriental Shorthair in him.  

 I like drawing long eared cats. (I'm not sure if I like them in real life, their too energetic for my taste  )

 

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Very well done on the line drawing of Socrates! 

Thanks, I had fun doing it

 

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

But best of all is Yoda-kitty!! And Mousey with his little light saber!    They're fabulous!

43 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Thank you, Yazeh, for a great review of a lovely ink.

Thank you for your support

 

[Sailor Kenshin]

Happy New Year!

This IS a pretty purple, and I'm not even a purple ink fan.

 

Compared to the JH Violette Pensee (the only comparison ink I have) it seems somewhat red-violet, which I like. But the long dry time and stainy-ness makes this a No.

Love the artwork, though.  Stalwart Mustachio Kitteh! Scenes from Star Wars. Swirly lines. I want to shout, 'Hey, Soc, don't drink that!'

Thanks, @yazeh, for another Ink-Sploration! 

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Some of the swatches were done before the kitty swatch thingy

I suppose we can forgive you.

 

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

I doubt it  He was named the wisest man alive, by the oracle of Delphi, as he was the only one who aware of his ignorance

Excellent point.  Anyone that wise would have  to like kitties.

 

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Thank you for your support

Always.

[yazeh]

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

Happy New Year!

Happy 2024!

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 

Compared to the JH Violette Pensee (the only comparison ink I have) it seems somewhat red-violet, which I like. But the long dry time and stainy-ness makes this a No.

Same here!

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

Love the artwork, though.  Stalwart Mustachio Kitteh! Scenes from Star Wars. Swirly lines. I want to shout, 'Hey, Soc, don't drink that!'

Thanks, @yazeh, for another Ink-Sploration! 

🙏

[inkstainedruth]

That does look like a really nice color.  Too bad about the dry times, though.... 

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

14 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

That does look like a really nice color.  Too bad about the dry times, though.... 

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

A pity isn't it? now I'm testing La Reine Mauve. It reminds me a lot of Kung Te-Cheng, (your favorite ink ) scent wise.

 

[inkstainedruth]

La Reine Mauve was well-named (color-wise, at any rate -- because it's DEFINITELY mauve).  But that was the ink that I'm STILL (years later) trying to figure out how I got it on the *heel* of my hand....  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[InesF]

Thank you @yazeh for this comprehensive ink review and for your always exciting graphical interpretations.  The most I love the stunning and almost psychedelic linework in the portrait. Nevertheless, your cats are always good for a surprise appearance.  

 

This ink colour is fully in my preferred hue range. Have I told already? - my drawer is full of purple-grey inks, because I can't get enough of them ... 🤔

[yazeh]

10 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

La Reine Mauve was well-named (color-wise, at any rate -- because it's DEFINITELY mauve).

Merriam Webster defines mauve as:

a : a moderate purple, violet, or lilac color
b: a strong purple

 

My sample is definition b and definitely not a:

What definition is your sample/bottle?

10 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

 

 But that was the ink that I'm STILL (years later) trying to figure out how I got it on the *heel* of my hand....  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

[yazeh]

6 hours ago, InesF said:

Thank you @yazeh for this comprehensive ink review and for your always exciting graphical interpretations.  The most I love the stunning and almost psychedelic linework in the portrait. Nevertheless, your cats are always good for a surprise appearance.  

Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated  🙏  🙏

6 hours ago, InesF said:

 

This ink colour is fully in my preferred hue range. Have I told already? - my drawer is full of purple-grey inks, because I can't get enough of them ... 🤔

Then you're in a treat, I'm in a purple phase

 

[knarflj]

I'm sorry I don't think I've said before how much I always enjoy your reviews: helpful information plus good quotes and fun drawings.  This time I even like the colour (although I do NOT need another purple!), and I love the Socrates drawing and the Yoda kitty.

 

Thank you!

[inkstainedruth]

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Merriam Webster defines mauve as:

a : a moderate purple, violet, or lilac color
b: a strong purple

 

My sample is definition b and definitely not a:

What definition is your sample/bottle?

 

Mauve is one of the first pigment colors artificially made (mid to late 19th C. IIRC).  It really isn't the same color as "purple" or "violet".  It was such a sensation that everyone wanted clothing of that color, and upholstery for their furniture and stuff.  To the point the time is now known as "the Mauve" era (I don't remember the reason why, but years ago my mom did a bunch of research about the color -- probably having to do with some novel she was writing at the time).

This is what I think of as "mauve": https://htmlcolorcodes.com/colors/mauve-taupe/

And was absolutely the color of my batch of La Reine Mauve.  Great color, but lousy behavior (even for the standard of Noodler's inks getting a bad rap for bad behavior).  It was just a mess....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

[yazeh]

1 hour ago, knarflj said:

I'm sorry I don't think I've said before how much I always enjoy your reviews: helpful information plus good quotes and fun drawings.  

Thank you! It means a lot 🙏

1 hour ago, knarflj said:

 

This time I even like the colour (although I do NOT need another purple!), and I love the Socrates drawing and the Yoda kitty.

 

Thank you!

 🙏

[yazeh]

50 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

Mauve is one of the first pigment colors artificially made (mid to late 19th C. IIRC).  It really isn't the same color as "purple" or "violet".  It was such a sensation that everyone wanted clothing of that color, and upholstery for their furniture and stuff.  To the point the time is now known as "the Mauve" era (I don't remember the reason why, but years ago my mom did a bunch of research about the color -- probably having to do with some novel she was writing at the time).

This is what I think of as "mauve": https://htmlcolorcodes.com/colors/mauve-taupe/

Thanks for this info. So in a way, calling Marie Antoinette, La Reine Mauve seems anachronistic. You can check the swatch above to my untrained eyes, it looks more purple than mauve. 

50 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

And was absolutely the color of my batch of La Reine Mauve.  Great color, but lousy behavior (even for the standard of Noodler's inks getting a bad rap for bad behavior).  It was just a mess....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

I yet to test it in my Lamy, so far so good