J Herbin Bouton d'or (Buttercup yellow)

[yazeh]

I got this one on a whim, thinking I might need a yellow. It's not suitable for writing as you cannot see what you're doing and while the scan and photos make it legible, I cannot read the page, over powered by this arguably bright yellow. It's a dry ink and wrote awful in the Soennecken. And it was awful to see the colour through the ink window, it looked like golden pee. Yuck!

 

I believe it's only suitable for art work, or mixing to create murky greens for ex.  (you know who you are) 

 

I'm not sure if you can use it as a highlighter, as it's not waterproof and loves soaking up cheap paper, meaning it'll bleed through.

 

Oh and where sunglasses, you'll be blinded. 😎

 

Let's start with the Chroma: 

 

 

 

Writing samples:

While it looks legible, it is not. I could not read what I was writing, hence my illegible handwriting. 

Hammermill 20lb back. This ink hates cheap paper

 

Photos:

Comparaison:

 Watertest:

 

I was so frustrated with this ink that mixed the Lamy convertors of the pen filled with Herbin Perle Noire with this one. I also added a few drops of Perle Noire in the convertor of the Kakuna, and created a nice murky green. I did a writing sample on cheap Hammermill 20lb paper, and chromas of the different mixes:

Note the blue in the first one, 

and fi

 

And finally the only reason to have this ink: to draw the Minions and bananas  

Inks used: 

J Herbin Bouton d'or (yellow), Noodler's Apache Sunset
A mix of Herbin Perle Noire + Bouton d'or (Murky green)
Platinum Carbon Black
Ink for the pants: Akkerman Delfts Blauw and water colour and pastel. 

 

 

· Pens used: Pilot Kakuna Ef, Lamy Safari (EF/F/M/B), Soennecken school pen semi-flex, Jinhao 450 fude

· What I liked: For drawing the Minions and bananas , mixing

· What I did not like: Illegible, not water resistant and ugly through the ink window.

· What some might not like: Illegible It doesn’t like cheap papers.

· Shading: Are you kidding me?

· Ghosting: On cheap paper

· Bleed through: Same as above. 

· Flow Rate: Wet

· Lubrication: Dry 

· Nib Dry-out: None

· Start-up: None

· Saturation: Unsaturated

· Shading Potential: You can’t see, so what’s the point?

· Sheen: None

· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: No

· Nib Creep / “Crud”: No.

· Staining (pen): No

· Clogging: No

· Cleaning: Ok

· Water resistance: It doesn’t really make a difference does it?

· Availability: 10/30 ml bottles, cartridges. I hope it's doesn't exist in 500 ml bottles

 

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

 

 

[lapis]

Not bad, but as you say, kinda blinding. Sorta like Pelikan's M205 DUO (yeah, the yellow one, whereas the green one is a bit more readable).

However... ♫ ♬ ... this yellow one from Herbin might be nice for a birthday greeting to the kiddies. I have the ink but haven't ever tried that out (on a darker-coloured paper)....  😊

[yazeh]

3 minutes ago, lapis said:

Not bad, but as you say, kinda blinding.

 

3 minutes ago, lapis said:

 

Sorta like Pelikan's M205 DUO (yeah, the yellow one, whereas the green one is a bit more readable).

However... ♫ ♬ ... this yellow one from Herbin might be nice for a birthday greeting to the kiddies. I have the ink but haven't ever tried that out (on a darker-coloured paper)....  😊

Yeah try it and let me know. I would go for one of those metallic markers, like gold and silver. They look more fun, but that's me

 

[inkstainedruth]

Thanks for the review (I agree about the legibility -- which is a problem with a LOT of yellows and some gold color inks) but was surprised about the reported dryness -- especially from an Herbin ink.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

13 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

Thanks for the review (I agree about the legibility -- which is a problem with a LOT of yellows and some gold color inks)

Good to know that! I prefer gold markers !

 

13 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

 

but was surprised about the reported dryness -- especially from an Herbin ink.

Yep They have a few dry inks. I believe Bleu nuit is another one of them

[AmandaW]

15 hours ago, yazeh said:

Shading: Are you kidding me?

[LizEF]

Whoa!  Holy blindness, Batman!   Maybe it's good for drawing smiley faces...   Well done mixing a blinding yellow with a black ink to make them both nice and murky!

 

Thank you for reviewing an ink you couldn't read!

[yazeh]

Just now, LizEF said:

Whoa!  Holy blindness, Batman!  

🦇

Just now, LizEF said:

 

Maybe it's good for drawing smiley faces...  

 

Good idea

 

Just now, LizEF said:

 

 

Well done mixing a blinding yellow with a black ink to make them both nice and murky!

 

Thought you would like that

 

Just now, LizEF said:

 

Thank you for reviewing an ink you couldn't read!

It was quite a challenge. It would be interesting to do an Efnir with this. You'll need UV goggles to read yourself 

 

[LizEF]

26 minutes ago, yazeh said:

It would be interesting to do an Efnir with this.

"Interesting" - that's one way to describe it!

[yazeh]

12 minutes ago, LizEF said:

"Interesting" - that's one way to describe it!

This of poor Quin slugging through yellow buttercup field, which transforms into the Lord of murk 

 

 

[LizEF]

14 minutes ago, yazeh said:

This of poor Quin slugging through yellow buttercup field, which transforms into the Lord of murk 

 

[namrehsnoom]

Love the Minions drawing!

As far as the ink goes… unusable on its own, just as you concluded. But it just happens that I’m on the lookout for a fairly cheap yellow ink to use for mixing. And this one looks a nice bright yellow, and might just do the trick. The other one I’m looking at is Diamine Yellow, but that seems to be a bit darker. 

[yazeh]

41 minutes ago, namrehsnoom said:

Love the Minions drawing!

🙏

41 minutes ago, namrehsnoom said:

As far as the ink goes… unusable on its own, just as you concluded. But it just happens that I’m on the lookout for a fairly cheap yellow ink to use for mixing. And this one looks a nice bright yellow, and might just do the trick. The other one I’m looking at is Diamine Yellow, but that seems to be a bit darker. 

It seems both are very close interns of colour. There's of course De Atramentis Document/Artist yellow but it seem more orange. I have an artist friend who uses R & K Helianthus. It has a touch of orange to it, though. This might help:

https://inkswatch.com/ink.html?inkId=746