Rohrer and Klingner Document Brown (Dokumentus Braun)

[yazeh]

Rohrer & Klingner Dokumentus Ink - Braun

 

This ink is one of the best, permanent inks I’ve ever used. It has wonderful low dry time, below 30s with broad nib on all paper. It’s a joy to write or sketch with. 

It is the epitome of German efficiency. It works, it’s solid and it’s simple. 

There’s nothing “sexy” about this ink, it hasn’t got a complex chroma or an unusual name.

 

For simplicity’s sake, I limited my testing to two pen, and avoided flex and fude nibs.

Writing samples:

 

A full written page with a broad nib, might have a hint of green, or a lovely grey haze, depending on the light. As a sketch ink, it looks almost black, especially on absorbent paper, as you can see on this sketch:

Paper is Fabriano Sketch - Very absorbent paper.

 Cat at the therapist

Cat: I identify as I dog. But the dogs don't like me.

Dr. Mouse: As long as you don't identify as a cat, I'm fine with that

 

 

Watertest:

I cut the paper into two. The left side was held under running water for 10 seconds. 

 

Comparaison

 

· Pens used: Pilot Elite (Ef/Stub) Lamy Safari (Ef/F/M/B) 

· What I liked: Well lubricated, classy, fast dry times, lovely in all pens. 

· What I did not like: Nothing. 

· What some might not like: Price – Lack of shading.

· Shading: None.

· Ghosting: Faint

· Bleed through: None

· Flow Rate: Wet

· Lubrication: Excellent

· Nib Dry-out: None.

· Start-up: None

· Saturation: Dark

· Shading Potential: None.

· Sheen: None.

· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: None

· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Nope.

· Staining (pen): No.

· Clogging: No. 

· Cleaning: 

· Water resistance: Excellent 

· Availability: 50 ml bottles

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

[LizEF]

Thank you, @yazeh for another very thorough review peppered with kitty sketches.   Dr. Mouse doesn't seem like the best therapist in the world...   Perhaps kitty should get a second opinion...

 

Meanwhile, nice that it's such a good permanent ink - rare to find one that's well behaved all around.

[AmandaW]

I have this ink, but rarely use it. I think it was nudged out of my limited memory by the R&K SketchInks.

 

Thankyou for the reminder. Right then, an empty pen... with a drawing nib, I think.

 

 

[yazeh]

8 hours ago, LizEF said:

Thank you, @yazeh for another very thorough review peppered with kitty sketches.   Dr. Mouse doesn't seem like the best therapist in the world...   Perhaps kitty should get a second opinion...

Most welcome! 

Yep, Kitty should get a second opinion or I can rewrite it

 

8 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Meanwhile, nice that it's such a good permanent ink - rare to find one that's well behaved all around.

Isn't it so?

 

6 hours ago, AmandaW said:

I have this ink, but rarely use it. I think it was nudged out of my limited memory by the R&K SketchInks.

I find this one better than Marlene and Klara, the only two, I've got

 

6 hours ago, AmandaW said:

 

Thankyou for the reminder. Right then, an empty pen... with a drawing nib, I think.

 

 

Hope you enjoy it as much as I did

 

[lapis]

Thanks again for a nice review. To be honest (you asked me not to hesitate...), I kinda like this ink. But for me, it's (only) a crude or crass brown (nothing meant cynically). More of a jade or olive-green, both of which have their own merits. For an all-time "brown", I'm still looking at my CdA Grand Canyon. Now that  had character. Too bad it was chucked out ten years ago.... 

🥲

[yazeh]

10 minutes ago, lapis said:

Thanks again for a nice review.

🙏

10 minutes ago, lapis said:

 

To be honest (you asked me not to hesitate...), I kinda like this ink. But for me, it's (only) a crude or crass brown (nothing meant cynically).

 

10 minutes ago, lapis said:

 

 

More of a jade or olive-green, both of which have their own merits.

Yeah. I get what you mean  I have different browns for different moods

 

 

10 minutes ago, lapis said:

 

For an all-time "brown", I'm still looking at my CdA Grand Canyon. Now that  had character. Too bad it was chucked out ten years ago.... 

🥲

Hope you'll find your all time brown, soon

 

[Sailor Kenshin]

What do you mean, no complex chroma?  It's got PINK in it!  😜

 

Thanks, @yazeh, for the cool review and cartoons.

[yazeh]

10 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

What do you mean, no complex chroma?  It's got PINK in it!  😜

I don't know where that pink came from. Maybe I should do it again

 

10 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 

Thanks, @yazeh, for the cool review and cartoons.

You're most welcome ⛵

[InesF]

Thank you @yazehfor this ink review and for the nice drawings. Do I remember correctly that cats reappear quite frequently in your reviews? 😄 But wait, do all your cats identify as cats? 

 

Like mouse and cat, I guess this document ink is on "eyes height" with Sketchink Lilly and with the non-waterprove Sepia. So I start guessing what may be the difference between Sketchink and Document ink from R&K ... 🤫 Did you find any documentation or data sheets?

[yazeh]

6 hours ago, InesF said:

Thank you @yazehfor this ink review and for the nice drawings.

Most welcome

6 hours ago, InesF said:

Do I remember correctly that cats reappear quite frequently in your reviews? 😄 

Yep. They do. 

6 hours ago, InesF said:

 

But wait, do all your cats identify as cats? 

To be honest, all they care about is to go out, eat, purr, be brushed, settle on your lap and watch Bird TV  and catch anything moving. They don't bother about the human condition

 

6 hours ago, InesF said:

 

Like mouse and cat, I guess this document ink is on "eyes height" with Sketchink Lilly and with the non-waterprove Sepia. So I start guessing what may be the difference between Sketchink and Document ink from R&K ... 🤫 Did you find any documentation or data sheets?

Actually Sepia is decently water resistant. To be honest I can't say what's the difference between the two lines. Thom on this thread said that the most popular in the document series are the blues. He might know more