Lucky Curves - model measurements

[OldPenGirl]

I could use an assist differentiating early Duofold Lucky Curve models.  For instance, I understand that an early "Lady" model was made without the ring on top.  How could I identify the difference between say a Jr and an early lady model without having them on hand, ie: online auctions etc.  

For instance, am I looking at an old Jr that has had the cap top replaced incorrectly? Maybe there should be a ring on there? etc.

I would be happy to have any data specific to measurements so that I could have a solid question to ask sellers.

Thx.

[amberleadavis]

You might want to look through some of the reviews in this forum to see if you find any measurements.

[joss]

I guess that your internet search has already guided you to these two websites which in fact have most of the info that you are looking for:

http://parkerpens.net/duofold.html

https://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/ParkerDuofoldFlattop.htm

 

[inkstainedruth]

I recently got a Lapis Lazuli Lady Duofold Lucky Curve ringtop, at the Commonwealth Pen Show.  It wasn't till I looked more carefully at the pen that I noticed it actually SAID "Lady Duofold" in the imprint.  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[OldPenGirl]

Inkstained.....   Thank you.  That's just the type of tip I was looking for.   I have bought a few pens that looked like one thing and turned out to be another.

[shalitha33]

I'm no Duofold expert so can be wrong in this .



They all seem to have roughly the same length JR looks to be significantly thicker though.



I don't have that many pens from this period to check, I have pens with 2 different JR imprints though.



Size wise , Canadian once blue and white pen and the lady Doufold pen are almost identical. Both in length and thickness.  Clip on it is broken off. Imprint doesn't mention Duofold at all. 


Just had a quick look at one of the old catalogs and it gets complicated :(.  I think what I looked in was 1923 catalog which has a page (26) about Duofold JR $5 and Lady Doufold - $5. These probably would have Duofold Jr and lady Duofold marked on the imprint.



Few page down it shows series 20,  20 1/2 20 and 20 1/2 medium length and so on. these can be ordered with different rings and either clip or ring top either as self fillers or non self fillers. Some on the pictures shows jack-knife imprint , some don't. I don't know if they all had the imprint or not (it could be just the picture).




Using measurements you would be able to tell Duofold JR and Lady Duofold models apart, but there is also the other / jack-knife pens that may have overlapping measurements? best way I guess is to ask for an image of the imprint and check that to make sure it is one or the other.


 

[inkstainedruth]

@shalitha33I presume that the photo of the "Lady Duofold" imprint is from the Jade (?) pen three from the right in the next photo (just to the right of the faded blue one and white one).  That green ringtop is very similar to mine, except for being green instead of the "Lapis Lazuli" blue (which may be the "blue on blue" Lapis Lazuli II coloration according to Richard Binder's site) -- same shape, same number/size and alignment of cap bands, same imprint.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[shalitha33]

Yes the small jade one is the lady duofold. Its kind of a franken pen sadly.  I got it without a cap and the cap is a replacement. Barrel has fairly good coloring . Cap is badly discolored and is of the wrong jade type :(.

[OldPenGirl]

Shalitha33

Thanks for the pics.  I'll keep them for reference.  Nice collection!