Fastest drying water resistant inks

[txomsy]

Surprised nobody mentioned the Noodler's Bernancke ink line, developed with that goal specifically in mind --quick drying.

 

[Tas]

With power comes great responsibility . . . with quick drying comes feathering (more often than not).

Watch out 😇 and good luck.

[Carrau]

I believe Noodler’s Kung Te-Cheng is another ink purported to be very fast drying, water resistant ink, with interesting color.

[ethernautrix]

I'll second A Smug Dill's suggestion of Platinum Carbon Black as a fast-drying waterproof ink.

 

I use it primarily on Tomoe River  (Hobonichi Techo) and Oxford Optik papers with no feathering or bleedthrough.

PCB does feather on some papers, but I stopped buying those brands after discovering the relatively cheap Oxford Optik notebook and switched from Moleskine's annual page-a-day planner to the Hobonichi Techo (the first one was 2020).

 

[yazeh]

On 1/2/2022 at 10:17 AM, IlikeInksandIcannotlie said:

I mean, I haven't tried them, but reviews suggest they're quite similar in terms of dryness. DRI probably goes a little more grey/black than ESSRI in those reviews.

In my experience, Diamine is much drier and it has a sluggish flow, much more than Essri. 

However, their dry time, is about 30 seconds. 

I can suggest some Noolder's inks are very fast drying, but on the downside, very wet, for ex. House divided and General of the Armies... 

[Bo Bo Olson]

ESSR has one of the longest threads in Com history.

 

I called it a sneaky ink, our passed Ink Guru Sandy1, called it mischievous.

Richard Binder said a good  blue-black changes from blue to black in a day.

 

ERRS is a paper dependent ink.

On some papers you can watch it change right before your eyes, on other papers it takes Richard's 24 hours. I've had it finish changing in two or three days on different papers.

 

I once did a 17 pen(different widths and flexes) , 20-or more paper,  scribble with that ink. May have been back when I was in Photobucket....so I'd have to really hunt and search to see if the scribbles still exist....could still have the original batch.

 

Many folks liked ESSR more than Diamine Register ink.

 

110ml ink will last you a while, how ever is not loaded with chemicals so got to be used up in a year or two.

[bisbob]

I wish I had read the original post about Jaipur v2 being such a gushy inker. I ought one hoping to enjoy the line variation, but shucks, there's too much ink put out to make line variation very possible. I expect this $66 investment will need another $30 of nibmeister work. I really regret buying the Jaipur v2.

[WRBNYC]

16 hours ago, bisbob said:

I wish I had read the original post about Jaipur v2 being such a gushy inker. I ought one hoping to enjoy the line variation, but shucks, there's too much ink put out to make line variation very possible. I expect this $66 investment will need another $30 of nibmeister work. I really regret buying the Jaipur v2.

Fwiw the comments in this thread led me to pairing mine with dry/thin iron gall inks (currently R&K Scabiosa and Salix, and I have a bottle ESSRI ink on the way), which has rendered one of my Jaipurs (an ebonite one with Scabiosa) perfectly usable as a daily writer and the other (acrylic pen with Salix) relatively manageable and good for things like lists and page headings. The fact that in one of these pens this type of ink fully resolved the problem and in the other it merely ameliorated it suggests that there’s some inconsistency in the nibs/feeds and that you might’ve gotten an especially egregious one. I was also initially disappointed but I no longer regret buying mine, although i admit this is partly because the teal-and-tan ebonite of the better functioning of the two is so visually and tactilely appealing.
 

I’d also mention that the #6 FPR ultraflex nib on my FPR Triveni (which comes with a plastic feed) has never had this firehose problem, which leads me to suspect the ebonite feed is the main culprit here. I *think* you can order an FPR nib unit with a plastic feed for like $8 and they’re very easy to swap out (it’s all one piece with screw threads).
 

I also have 3 FPR pens with #5.5 flex nibs (two Quickdraws with ebonite feeds and an Ambassador with a plastic feed) and these pens all write brilliantly. The Ambassador is the least interesting looking of the FPR pens I have but it is the best writer and my current go-to when gifting a friend a fountain pen.

 

Anyway, you might want to email the guy who runs FPR with your issue (I think his name is Kevin) — he’s always promptly answered my emails and has a reputation for helping customers get a good experience out of his products. He might send you a replacement nib unit or suggest other ways to adjust the flow.

 

[WRBNYC]

On 1/14/2022 at 9:02 PM, Carrau said:

I believe Noodler’s Kung Te-Cheng is another ink purported to be very fast drying, water resistant ink, with interesting color.

I absolutely love this ink but I think it would be a nightmare in a gushy flex pen. Even in medium nibs it spreads and ghosts like mad, it nib-creeps like no ink I’ve ever seen and then dries into a crust, etc. I always have an extra fine Pilot Kakuno inked with Kung Te Cheng which I use for note taking and it’s a wonderful pairing, but I’ve never found it a useful ink in any other pen. (Ymmv! 🤷‍♂️)

[WRBNYC]

On 1/2/2022 at 8:56 PM, LizEF said:

You're very welcome!

 

Erm.  Maybe I should have mentioned that the other DAD inks I've reviewed have dry times of approximately eternity.

 

Yeah, DAD Blue writes a very fat line, though I've heard Turquoise is worse.

 

 

Wanted to mention that I wound up growing quite fond of the DAD Sepia. In the end it was indeed a bit too wet and slow to dry for the Jaipur flex nib, but I have it in one of those FPR QuickDraw Flex pens and find it well behaved with some lovely shading. 👌

[LizEF]

7 minutes ago, WRBNYC said:

Wanted to mention that I wound up growing quite fond of the DAD Sepia. In the end it was indeed a bit too wet and slow to dry for the Jaipur flex nib, but I have it in one of those FPR QuickDraw Flex pens and find it well behaved with some lovely shading. 👌

[Bo Bo Olson]

From my long time reading, ebonite holds ink better because it's sawn so rougher than pressed plastic. Lamy had to go to bathing it's plastic feeds in acid to make them rougher. I don't know if any other company does that.

One looks at the Safari feed and it is early '30's smooth with no visible combs. I've never taken the nib off my Joy (nor safari when I had one) so don't know how the top of the feed is.

 

Could be the gusher nib needs to be 'narrowed' by pushing the tip directly full under the other side and again the other tine the same way a couple times to narrow the slit.

 

The opposite; if a classic nib, to make a pen wetter is to stick both thumbnails under the shoulders and think about pressing the tines apart. In it don't take much to widen the slit, thinking about it is often just enough.

If one presses the tines too far apart, then go back to crossing the tips under another to narrow the slit again.

[bisbob]

FYI

Owner, Kevin, is shipping me a replacement nib unit.. So, kudos for his customer support.  I will withhold final judgment until I receive, install, and test the replacement unit.

Glad to hear of your other FPR positive experiences. They're in process of a 20% off sale that is tempting me.

[WRBNYC]

12 hours ago, bisbob said:

FYI

Owner, Kevin, is shipping me a replacement nib unit.. So, kudos for his customer support.  I will withhold final judgment until I receive, install, and test the replacement unit.

Glad to hear of your other FPR positive experiences. They're in process of a 20% off sale that is tempting me.

Glad to hear you're getting it worked out. 

 

Came here to suggest that if it's not too late, request a replacement nib unit with a *plastic feed*. I took the #6 ultraflex nib unit with a plastic feed that was on my Triveni and put it on one of the Jaipur v.2s and it completely solved the problem. 

[WRBNYC]

It’s not clear to me (and I don’t have the technical knowledge to figure out) whether it’s the material (plastic vs.

ebonite) or the design of the feed that mainly accounts for the difference.
 

As you can see, the structure of the opening to the barrel is quite different on the ebonite feed (left) vis-a-vis the plastic one (right):