Capillary P61 Burgundy with Consort cap: Does it Exist??

[TheRedBeard]

Looking for another capillary P61 for my collection I have stumbled over the following question:

 

Input:

1. Consort cap was introduced on England-made P61 in 1967.

2. Capillary filler was discontinued in 1969.

3. Burgundy (Maroon) colour of section and barrel was introduced in 1969. 

 

Question:

Does/did P61 Burgundy with capillary filler and Consort cap exist??

 

I have never seen the one...

All P61s in Burgundy w/Consort cap I saw were the ones with c/c filler...

 

 

 

[Carguy]

4 hours ago, TheRedBeard said:

Looking for another capillary P61 for my collection I have stumbled over the following question:

 

Input:

1. Consort cap was introduced on England-made P61 in 1967.

2. Capillary filler was discontinued in 1969.

3. Burgundy (Maroon) colour of section and barrel was introduced in 1969. 

 

Question:

Does/did P61 Burgundy with capillary filler and Consort cap exist??

 

I have never seen the one...

All P61s in Burgundy w/Consort cap I saw were the ones with c/c filler...

 

 

 

My notes indicate that both the burgundy was introduced in 1969 and the capillary filler was discontinued that year also. My guess is that there was not a burgundy capillary as Parker probably started phasing out the capillary filler long before that and wouldn’t use it in a “new” color.

[TheRedBeard]

11 hours ago, Carguy said:

My notes indicate that both the burgundy was introduced in 1969 and the capillary filler was discontinued that year also. My guess is that there was not a burgundy capillary as Parker probably started phasing out the capillary filler long before that and wouldn’t use it in a “new” color.

Mike, thank you for confirming my guess  

I came to the same conclusion based on the data available. 

[donnweinberg]

Of course, nothing would prevent one from pairing a consort cap from a C/C 61 with everything else from a capillary-filler, would it?

[TheRedBeard]

21 minutes ago, donnweinberg said:

Of course, nothing would prevent one from pairing a consort cap from a C/C 61 with everything else from a capillary-filler, would it?

Thanks for special opinion  

 

However, 

1) my question was about original factory-made P61s;

2) as far as I remember, capillary 61s Mk I and Mk II are different from Mk III with c/c, at least, in 

a) inner cap design;

2) section threads.

So, generally, their caps are not interchangeable.

Anyway, for a clear picture I will check the matter on my 61s...

 

 

 

[TheRedBeard]

The key point: there was no factory-made P61 with a capillary filler and section+barrel in Burgundy...

[inkstainedruth]

Okay, I'll bite (having just stumbled onto this thread).  What's a "consort cap"?  I know that some 61s supposedly had rainbow caps (sadly, none of mine do).  But I haven't run across the term "consort cap" before now.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Carguy]

Ruth,

 

Here is a picture of a Consort cap on a Capillary Surf Green. I think this cap was probably intended for a later model with a wider different clutch ring, but it works just fine on this pen.

[mitto]

The consort cap came with later English production C/C P61s/P55s.

No capillary 61 with a consort cap. 

[baz666]

On 10/25/2021 at 9:15 PM, mitto said:

The consort cap came with later English production C/C P61s/P55s.

No capillary 61 with a consort cap. 

 

 

Parker did in fact produce a capillary filled 61 in the Consort pattern.

 

[parkergeo]

A bit of Parker trivia is that the Consort caps have a higher gold content- they were made with 1/5 rolled gold rather than the typical 1/10th caps. Could theoretically reduce "brassing" but maybe it just allowed owners to feel superior about their pens!

[TheRedBeard]

On 10/25/2021 at 9:15 PM, mitto said:

The consort cap came with later English production C/C P61s/P55s.

No capillary 61 with a consort cap. 

Not correct at all. 

Consort cap was introduced in 1967 while capillary filler was discontinued in 1969. 

There were capillary 61s with Consort cap in black and perhaps some other colours, but not in Burgundy.  

 

I have got P61 Consort Insignia with a capillary system. 

[TheRedBeard]

On 10/27/2021 at 3:44 PM, parkergeo said:

A bit of Parker trivia is that the Consort caps have a higher gold content- they were made with 1/5 rolled gold rather than the typical 1/10th caps. Could theoretically reduce "brassing" but maybe it just allowed owners to feel superior about their pens!

INO, Consort caps and barrel look and fell much better than RG ones. 

I have got P61s Insignia both "normal" Insignia and Consort one and should say that Consort feels noticeably heavier and so more comfortable for me. 

 

However, I should admit that Rainbow caps in excellent condition look very nice and gorgeous, too.