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50 minutes ago, txomsy said:

If maori tattoos become in fashion, every Joe or Jane will want one. And very soon everybody will see it as "normal" in their given cultural moment.

 

I hope they will be as funny and telling as ‘Chinese’ character tattoos that supposedly spell out a person's not-Chinese name, or a word in English, etc. :headsmack: For sheer entertainment value, I'm kinda glad so many fools were not deterred by qualms about cultural (mis)appropriation from permanently marking themselves that way for everyone to see. :lticaptd:

 

I haven't heard of too many Chinese-reading Chinese folk being truly incensed by the questionable practice.

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13 hours ago, MoriartyR said:

Ok, there is no such crime as cultural appropriation (though I still think I would look silly if I went out dressed as a Maasai warrior or a Samurai). Nevertheless, I think we must agree there are different conventions in different societies and these affect our tastes and norms.

If you dressed as a Samurai at an SCA event, people would say "Hey are you part of Yama-kaminari Household?  And is the fertility festival at Pennsic happening this year?"  (shrug).  I've seen blonde samurai and African-American Vikings at events and nobody bats an eye as long as they're playing the SCA game, and making an attempt at being "in persona".  Oh, and some guy who I think is from Ohio glued fake leopard fur to his armor and is known as "the Jaguar knight" -- because while New World, there was late-period contact the the Aztecs (I think he does Aztec) with Spain.

I did think the woman I saw one year at Pennsic dressed in ancient Egyptian was a little odd, but since she was, IIRC Queen of one of the other kingdoms at the time, I wasn't gonna argue....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

edited due to some sort of glitch which cut me off mid-sentence....

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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Idea's are nobody's monopoly, it is the processes that may be copyrighted.

 

The world has evolved into a cultural melting pot, nothing stops a Kenyan from developing a penchant for sushi or a Czech enjoying Cuban cigars or a Thai making Scotch his favorite poison.

 

Everybody is influenced in some way or the other by another culture/habit/style.

 

IMO, if the end result looks/feels right then it is a successful fusion irrespective of the borrowed cultural influences.

Interesting products are a result of successful fusions/influences.

 

Everybody is free to rummage through the 'cultural basket' and come up with their own interpretation/vision.

It is the end product and the care taken to carefully weave the different cultures, that ultimately define the success/failure of your thought process/idea.

 

Why single out Pelikan, Lamy too has jumped on the Urushi bandwagon with the Dialog 3 at almost $10K.  :yikes:

https://www.cultpens.com/i/q/LM86962/lamy-dialog-urushi-fountain-pen-bright-leaves

 

I know a few people who have Hebrew and Hindi words as tattoo's and they speak neither of those languages.

It is a simple case of they either liked the meaning of the word or found the style/form of the script pleasing.

 

Cd'A had launched pens depicting various Hindu deities and priced at well over $10K.

https://www.penporium.com/CARAN-D-ACHE-EDOUARD-JUD-SHIVA-SILVER-FOUNTAIN-PEN-p/54.htm

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/109212-caran-d’ache-shiva/#comments

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