Noodler's Legal Lapis (Pendemonium Exclusive)

[bokaba]

Noodler's Legal Lapis (Pendemonium Exclusive)

Platinum Cool (F) on Rhodia Lined Notebook

 

Flow: very wet

 

Saturation: medium

 

Bleed/feather: yes, especially on cheaper copier type papers

 

Color: teal/gray, leaning more teal with hints of blue (darkness and color may depend on paper/pen combo)

 

Shading: some

 

Water Resistance: surprisingly poor given its advertisement as "bulletproof;" I was able to essentially wash text off with water after 24 hours of drying

 

Notes: while the color is nice, I did not find this ink to have adequate water resistance given that there are much cheaper, better behaved inks of similar color

 

 

[yazeh]

Thanks Bokaba. Surprisng how  it completely washed away

[SamCapote]

LL has always been a classic!  Thanks for your review!

[LizEF]

Thanks for the review.  Someone requested I review this mixed 75% Legal Lapis and 25% La Reine Mauve - a color they call Regal Lapis.  I've never purchased from Pendemonium, though, so still pondering that one.

[A Smug Dill]

10 hours ago, bokaba said:

Notes: while the color is nice, I did not find this ink to have adequate water resistance given that there are much cheaper, better behaved inks of similar color

 

So have you since compared the water resistance of Legal Lapis and Air Corp Blue Black?

 

I've just received a bottle of Bad Belted Kingfisher, and I'd say its water resistance is at least on par with what you've shown above with Legal Lapis. That said, the brand will never be high on my list if I were to make recommendations to friends or fellow hobbyists who haven't already expressly limited themselves to considering only Noodler's Inks products. There are cheaper Chinese (and other?) inks on a per-ml basis; and I'm sure there are other US brands (with which I'm not personally familiar) that US-centric consumers can order online.

 

If you think this is a nice colour, and you want to get an ink along those lines that has superb water resistance, then Sailor Seiboku surely must be my recommendation above all else.

[yazeh]

I'm starting to wonder if you have the right ink. 

I saw a water test of Legal lapis, and apparently it doesn't budge: 

Here's the post:

 

and here is the direct link to the photo:

[bokaba]

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

I'm starting to wonder if you have the right ink. 

I saw a water test of Legal lapis, and apparently it doesn't budge: 

Here's the post:

 

and here is the direct link to the photo:

 

Not likely as the ink was straight from the bottle. Unless LL has a weeks' long dry time; in which case I wouldn't call it bulletproof.

[bokaba]

3 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

So have you since compared the water resistance of Legal Lapis and Air Corp Blue Black?

 

I've just received a bottle of Bad Belted Kingfisher, and I'd say its water resistance is at least on par with what you've shown above with Legal Lapis. That said, the brand will never be high on my list if I were to make recommendations to friends or fellow hobbyists who haven't already expressly limited themselves to considering only Noodler's Inks products. There are cheaper Chinese (and other?) inks on a per-ml basis; and I'm sure there are other US brands (with which I'm not personally familiar) that US-centric consumers can order online.

 

If you think this is a nice colour, and you want to get an ink along those lines that has superb water resistance, then Sailor Seiboku surely must be my recommendation above all else.

Yes, I have compared to Air Corp. The teal dye washes away in AC, but the black line remains. The Noodler's that I have found to be truly water resistant are Legal Blue, Polar Blue (and other polar colors), Zhivago, and 54th Mass.

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, bokaba said:

 

Not likely as the ink was straight from the bottle. Unless LL has a weeks' long dry time; in which case I wouldn't call it bulletproof.

My bad, then. Thanks

[bokaba]

I posted a water resistance test I did no other Noodler's inks as well as a few other well-known water resistant inks for reference. 

 

[yazeh]

Thanks!

[Sidney]

Have you tried giving the bottle a little shake before filling or dipping your pen? You shouldn't have to, but I have a Noodler's Black that needs it. I don't really shake the bottle I turn it upside down and right side up a few times (like stirring rather than shaking). Have you notified Pendemonium? You may have received a bad bottle.

[Intensity]

I really wanted to love my LL, because the color is so beautiful, but it was a huge disappointment in properties.  I still hold out hope that my batch was not so good, and I might get luckier in the future.  Mine was too concentrated, smeared a lot (absolutely not for Tomoe River 52g, for example), stained pens quickly with very difficult cleaning, and oozed out of the nib into cap, dripping when opening.  I did try diluting, but it was losing its color too much before those issues improved.

[bokaba]

I am currently looking into other similarly colored inks and will see if I can find anything better.