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Just now, inkstainedruth said:

Does that mean I could swap the nibs on the two 1911S pens?  That would be cool -- because when they came I found I liked the look of the Wicked Witch pen better than that of the Loch Ness Monster -- but like the MF nib on the Loch Ness way better than the super-wet music nib on the Wicked Witch pen.

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as long as they're the same size.  You may have to heat up the whole nib section in some hot water to soften the glue they use.  https://newtonpens.com/sections-for-the-kop/


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6 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

Does that mean I could swap the nibs on the two 1911S pens?

 

The nibs and feeds are friction-fit and can be just pulled out (if you're prepared to take the risk of damaging them).

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12 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

The nibs and feeds are friction-fit and can be just pulled out (if you're prepared to take the risk of damaging them).

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https://newtonpens.com/sections-for-the-kop/

 

they're all threaded too.  Once you get past the glue it's nice to be able to just unscrew them.


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15 minutes ago, Newton Pens said:

they're all threaded too.

 

Thanks. I've disassembled the gripping section of my Sailor Proske† before; so I'm assuming Ruth's “1911S” pens are constructed in the same way. However, I think it's easier for the ‘beginner’ or less fussy user to just pull out the nib and feed, instead of worry about the unknown/variable condition of the glue in the particular pen, even if the simplicity of the procedure is accompanied by risk. (Yes, I've pulled the nibs and feeds out of my gold-nibbed Sailor pens, too, so I'm not just shooting my mouth off and leading others up the garden path.)

 

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8 hours ago, Newton Pens said:

and

https://newtonpens.com/sections-for-the-kop/

 

they're all threaded too.  Once you get past the glue it's nice to be able to just unscrew them.

 

Have you tried  removing the nib from the nib unit after you remove the section.  In the 1911L, you can simply pull the nib and feed out with moderate pull. For the KOP, I am finding it very hard to pull the nib out. What is the best way to do it in your experience for the KOP ?

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43 minutes ago, salmasry said:

 

Have you tried  removing the nib from the nib unit after you remove the section.  In the 1911L, you can simply pull the nib and feed out with moderate pull. For the KOP, I am finding it very hard to pull the nib out. What is the best way to do it in your experience for the KOP ?

 

the way in the link, with heating up the section in hot water, is the best way.  for me.


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12 minutes ago, Newton Pens said:

 

the way in the link, with heating up the section in hot water, is the best way.  for me.

Thanks for the reply, 

 

I like this idea alot.  It is much better than whatever I came up with :)

 

I was just making sure  that it will be able to remove the nib and feed from the nib unit.  The link is specific about just removing the section to change it to another section, and I was not sure that the method would work for removing the nib as well.

 

 

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22 hours ago, Newton Pens said:

 

 

 

as long as they're the same size.  You may have to heat up the whole nib section in some hot water to soften the glue they use.  https://newtonpens.com/sections-for-the-kop/

Well, they're both 1911S pens, so I'm presuming they're the same.  If they unscrew, I could just swap the entire nib and feed the way I would on a Pelikan M200/M400 nib unit, or a vintage Esterbrook one.

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Not to me, even though quite a few of the special editions are beyond my maximum budget.

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15 hours ago, salmasry said:

Thanks for the reply, 

 

I like this idea alot.  It is much better than whatever I came up with :)

 

I was just making sure  that it will be able to remove the nib and feed from the nib unit.  The link is specific about just removing the section to change it to another section, and I was not sure that the method would work for removing the nib as well.

 

 

oh yeah you can just pull the nib and feed from the whole section.  I like to use a bit of soft rubber from a bicycle tube as a grippy grabber.


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My Sailor 1911L in a broad nib feels like writing with a felt tipped pen, only with much less friction. I quite enjoy it, and don't think it's overpriced. It's just not for everyone.

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I don’t know how anyone can say Sailor pens are overpriced. For people who like Sailor nibs there is really nothing else at any price that can offer the same writing experience. That has to be worth a premium.

 

Even if you don’t find Sailor nibs exceptional then at least you have to concede that many others do and will happily pay more for a Sailor than a comparable pen with a different nib.


I think Sailor is one of the few pen companies that make something truly special.

 

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