Efnir: Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrün

[Tas]

Thanks Liz! great job as always!

 

Just a note to anyone reading, if you want to see (hear) something facinating, watch the video at 2X speed. the "tap tap tap" of the nib turns into more of a chalk on a chalkboard sound, it's kinda neat!

 

 

 

 

You're very welcome! (And yes, that was fun, though apparently it's been too long since I heard chalk on a chalkboard.)

Chalk lovers everywhere . . . enjoy

[IThinkIHaveAProblem]

Thanks for the video Tas.

 

Makes me wish i could afford a 32ozbottle of Midway blue...

 

Oh well, at least i have 3/4 of a 32 of bottle of vintage skrip blue black on the way !

[Tas]

Thanks for the video Tas.

 

Makes me wish i could afford a 32ozbottle of Midway blue...

 

Oh well, at least i have 3/4 of a 32 of bottle of vintage skrip blue black on the way !

Glad you liked it.

 

24oz of Vintage Skrip Blue Black sounds heavenly. Photos when it arrives please

[IThinkIHaveAProblem]

Glad you liked it.

 

24oz of Vintage Skrip Blue Black sounds heavenly. Photos when it arrives please

i will try and remember. it will likely be well over a month before it gets here... Canada post and all, not to mention the week long delay that pitney bowes adds to it in erlanger kentucky...

[LizEF]

Here's the line width measurement. The line is one of those used for dry time.  Magnification is 100x.  The grid is 100x100µm.  The scale is 330µm, with eleven divisions of 30µm each.  The line width for this ink is roughly 270µm.

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

I was very happy with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrün in my semi-flex MB 264 M. I got both great shading and good line variation.

 

Both are of course stubbed, as normal for German pens of that era. 

 

Just put some of that ink in a '50-54's Pelikan 400 OM semi-flex. That is a much wetter nib, so the ink is greener and muted, and very little shading. Not the knock your socks off shading the drier MB nib gives me.

 

I can now see why I wasn't so enthusiastic about that ink, and let it sit for a decade. I was using too wet a nib.

I'd not really thought about that before Alt-Goldgrün made me aware of the 'vast' difference in tone a dry and a wet nib can make.  

 

I do have a Geha 725 that is semi-flex and dry, but I never noticed any other, until just now, any of my 35 semi-flex and 16 maxi-semi-flex nibs as dry before. But I am 'done' with this ink and semi-flex right now.

 

Next I'll have to dig up a springy regular flex Pelikan 200 or the '82-97 400, and see if I can go vs another drier nib from that era; '80-97's. I do have a couple 146's from then. In, I have more Pelikans that anything else in that era...

Perhaps  M P-75 in M.

I had found in one of the Parker blogs, Parker called what I thought of as a semi-nail --- semi-flexible. Looked at my two P-75's second time and jumped it from semi-nail to almost regular flex...ie well mashed 3 X tine spread.

If one knows only P-51 nails, how would a Parker fan know that it was only a springy nib like a Wearever or a few of the Esterbrooks. It's definitely not semi-flex. 

 

 

Off to do a wet noodle..... Now I have got to learn how to transfer pictures from my new Handie, and put it in Flickr....

Some time soon, even tomorrow. 

Wet noodle, my first BCHR pen.Win pen, get picture. Blind cap, no name, War Pen, no cap rings.

Nib; Deluxe first Quality. With a Fox jumping through a capital P.

I think that is a Phfortzheim nib. Phfortzheim was and is the jewelry center of Germany.

That nib has its own hue of color.  Of course there is line variation, and some shading. More than I had in the Pelikan.

I like that Wet Noodle nib, just scribbling in my normal Rooster Scratch and outside my only Fancy Letter a capital L, it looks just about like I know how to write. 

 

Still like the MB 264's nib and this ink best. 

 

Got to look and see if Sandy1 did this ink, and if someone revived her lost photos.

She was the master of showing what different widths and papers did to an ink. But she used the normal nibs, staying away from semi-flex or superflex nibs.

She didn't rate this ink.

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

I was very happy with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrün in my semi-flex MB 264 M. I got both great shading and good line variation. ...

Thanks for sharing your adventures, @Bo Bo Olson!  It just highlights that ink properties depend heavily on the pen, and I'd say shading depends most heavily on all the variables.

[sebastel23]

removed unnecessary rant.

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

I occasionally cut rants my self.

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Other times the rant just wasn't worth it in the first place.

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Not all rants are bad. I used to rant often   about the Pelikan 200's nib...until they ruined it some 6 years ago. 

[namrehsnoom]

Thanks for the review @LizEF. Definitely an ink that triggers emotions (if I read the comments 😀). I'm on the "love it" side of things. It's a green that appeals to me - not too yellow, not too green, not too bright, not too dark  ... but somewhere in between. The only thing I don't like about it is the heavy shading, which is a bit too harsh for my taste.

[Bo Bo Olson]

17 minutes ago, namrehsnoom said:

bit too harsh for my taste.

Use a Pelikan semi-flex M or wider.

 

I've not tried the ink on a springy regular flex lately. I have no idea what pens I used a decade ago, when the ink wasn't as interesting as it is now...to me, because of the heavy shading.

The 1000 and the 200 are springy regular flex...unless you are lucky with a Bock '97 @ 2010 semi-flex.

 

I was disappointed my '50-54 400 stubbed semi-flex OM, had so little shading, in it was too wet. In I want heavy shading. Which I got with a somewhat dry, semi-flex M MB 264.

 

My Wet Noodle showed more shading than I expected because of the wet 400. It's not great shading, but some, and in a wet noodle.

If this keeps up, could be I'd have to buy a second bottle.

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, namrehsnoom said:

Thanks for the review @LizEF.

You're most welcome!

 

1 hour ago, namrehsnoom said:

Definitely an ink that triggers emotions (if I read the comments 😀).

With some inks, there's no middle ground!

 

1 hour ago, namrehsnoom said:

I'm on the "love it" side of things. It's a green that appeals to me - not too yellow, not too green, not too bright, not too dark  ... but somewhere in between. The only thing I don't like about it is the heavy shading, which is a bit too harsh for my taste.

I like it, but not enough to buy a bottle - to me, it is too much (of what, I'm not sure, but too much of something - yellow? bright? green?).  Note that it's not possible for there to be too much shading.