Brilliant Blue Ink - No Ghosts Please

[mke]

@amberleadavis

> Ghosting is different from Show Through

Really, I didn't know. What is the difference? Thank you.

[amberleadavis]

KWZI Blue #4 and Violet #4 are ghosters. I will try and post up some images. Parts of the ink seep through the other side and it happens on all papers. For example, on the two early KWZI inks I mentioned, ou don't see the Blue or Violet on the reverse, but instead see a yellow or green.

Here is another explanation:

Ghosting is when some component of the ink seeps through the other side over time - it is not the same as bleed through - it happens after the ink is dry and it is only part of the ink. Ghosting was a problem in the early days of the first KWZI blues. (Even with Ghosting, KWZI Blue #4 is one of my favorite colors).

I don't have my ink journals here, but I can probably find a page where my old printer did it.

Show though (you can see the entire color on the reverse side of the paper and you might be able to read the images in reverse.) and bleed through and it is very paper dependent.

[amberleadavis]

Okay, here is some ghosting:

 

The fish is on this page.

 

http://www.sheismylawyer.com/2018-Ink/UV/slides/2018-03-29-041.jpg

 

Here is the back of the page and this particular ink ghosted.

 

http://www.sheismylawyer.com/2018-Ink/UV/slides/2018-03-29-044.jpg

 

 

BTW, the part of the ink that did ghost showed up under UV light.

 

http://www.sheismylawyer.com/2018-Ink/UV/slides/2018-03-29-045.jpg

[amberleadavis]

AH, I found a picture.

 

http://www.sheismylawyer.com/2018-Ink/UV/slides/2018-03-29-139.jpg

 

http://www.sheismylawyer.com/2018-Ink/UV/slides/2018-03-29-142.jpg

[mke]

OK, I see, thank you. In the beginning, when I complained to some people about that I don't want to be able to read from the backside of a page, I was returned that this is called ghosting. I took over that name but now I see that I would better use "show through".

 

Meanwhile, I have loaded another pen [nib (size) M] with Octopus Fluids Royal Blue - see a comparison of Octopus inks here.

This one is much better than Pelikan Royal Blue but it also shows signs of bleeding through, only some dots, so it is still acceptable - on the Kokuyo Campus Notebook ノ-108S5.

No problems to use both sides.

 

My evaluation scheme:

Level 5: bleed through

Level 4: no/light bleed through, heavy show through

Level 3: no/very light bleed through, light show through

Level 2: no/point bleed through, very light show through

Level 1: no bleed through, no show through

 

The investigated combination Jinhao X450, original nib, Octopus Fluids Royal Blue, Kokuyo ノ-108S5 is a lower Level 2 combination, heading towards Level 3.

"Welcome, you are now a located member in the pen-ink-paper hell."

 

Level 4-5 is for me a kind of self-punishment.

Edited April 24, 2020 by mke

[sebastel23]

@Amberlea, thanks a lot for this very clear explanation.

 

@mke:

I'd suggest to add "ghosting" as Level 3a) to your list.

While i consider ghosting only a light version of bleed through, only parts of the ink contributing here makes a difference in aesthetical terms.

 

btw., for me the self punishment starts at level 3 already :-)