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Those were fascinating reads, especially the second one. Though it makes me said to think the Third Reich ruined brown ink by association for an entire country. Stupid Nazis.

Maybe that's why Lamy doesn't offer one. :D

 

Hhhmmm,... but MB does. 🤔

 

 

Sean :rolleyes:

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Just one correction, servants in households of the period you mention were required to have a basic education and be literate. My Grandmother was employed as a servant aged 14 in 1900 at Windsor Castle, the home of the royal family when she left school. She started work there on the lowest rung of the proverbial ladder. It was usually Butlers who received visiting cards or invitations at the door.

I'll bow to your knowledge. My family left England in the 1600's (or perhaps a bit earlier), and after 1787 were all in Canada. Well, the non-Irish ones :)

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I'll bow to your knowledge. My family left England in the 1600's (or perhaps a bit earlier), and after 1787 were all in Canada. Well, the non-Irish ones :)

Do you have a record of where your family went when they left England in in the 1600s?

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Maybe that's why Lamy doesn't offer one. :D

 

Hhhmmm,... but MB does.

 

 

MB's brown ink was known as Sepia, which was discontinued but I don't know when. Toffee Brown is recent.

-- Joel -- "I collect expensive and time-consuming hobbies."

 

INK (noun): A villainous compound of tannogallate of iron, gum-arabic and water,

chiefly used to facilitate the infection of idiocy and promote intellectual crime.

(from The Devil's Dictionary, by Ambrose Bierce)

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Many people in France still had a social calling card, engraved only with their name. Contact info added by hand as appropriate. I was charmed when my elderly neighbor gave me one engraved in Roundhand with only her married name, Madame Valat.

People who wanted to brag about their summer houses listed both residences on the card, on the right and left hand side at the bottom, under the name. Cartes de visite were the larger size, something like 3x4".

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Any rules of this nature appears to be an affectation of the so called elite wishing themselves to be separated from the common herd!

Pish Posh!

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Well, those are the summer people. Not at all Madame Valat. She lived in a little house complete with tiny rooms all on different levels that hadn't been renovated in the last 75 years. Still had the push button light switches. Don't recall her handwriting - probably small and cramped by the time I knew her!

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Pish Posh!

My dear friend, the rules state, that you should have put the posh before the pish!

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Those were fascinating reads, especially the second one. Though it makes me said to think the Third Reich ruined brown ink by association for an entire country. Stupid Nazis.

I'm German and I've never heard of such a thing. No one cares if you write in brown letters.

"Brown" is more associated with your political views on a figurative level because of the brown uniforms of the SA, the paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. No one cares if your car, your clothes or your inks are brown. I think the two major U.S. parties also associate with colors, red and blue, right?

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I'm German and I've never heard of such a thing. No one cares if you write in brown letters.

"Brown" is more associated with your political views on a figurative level because of the brown uniforms of the SA, the paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. No one cares if your car, your clothes or your inks are brown. I think the two major U.S. parties also associate with colors, red and blue, right?

Research shows the SA didn't particularly choose brown for the party color, it was purely the fact that surplus brown colored shirts were still cheaply available after WW1.

 

I'm certain that succeeding generations after WW2 don't give a single thought in associating brown with Nazi Party.

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Research shows the SA didn't particularly choose brown for the party color, it was purely the fact that surplus brown colored shirts were still cheaply available after WW1.

 

I'm certain that succeeding generations after WW2 don't give a single thought in associating brown with Nazi Party.

 

Nor do folks associate Red {Flag} Black {Swastika on the} White {circle} with the Nazi party

Or Black is evil 'cause the Schutzstaffel used all black uniforms......

What is telling for me is that politics plus brown equals what the above wrote......Interesting.....

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"Brown" is more associated with your political views on a figurative level because of the brown uniforms of the SA, the paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. No one cares if your car, your clothes or your inks are brown.

 

What do the American political parties have to do with this..is also telling.... I think the two major U.S. parties also associate with colors, red and blue, right?"

 

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I think the two major U.S. parties also associate with colors, red and blue, right?

An association more external (used by the press, for example). You don't find the senate divided between red-shirts and blue-shirts.

 

Probably the closer color association would be the "black hat" vs "white hat" (though even that was loose in the westerns)

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Brown ink = Naxi

 

Green ink = Insanity

 

Turquoise ink = femininity; for girls only, (drawn from other threads of this type).

 

 

I've used them all. I guess I've been an effeminate, insane Nazi all these years and never knew it. :o

 

 

Sean :rolleyes:

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"Every one therefore that shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven." - MT. 10:32

"Any society that will give up liberty to gain security deserves neither and will lose both." - Ben Franklin

Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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Do you have a record of where your family went when they left England in in the 1600s?

Landed very early in the colonial history, predominantly in Boston area, left for Canada after the revolution. By 1787, almost all of those with the last name had left for New Brunswick (guess why), where there's still the largest grouping in North America.

 

Oddly enough, there's another person with the same family name on the board, but it appears that _his_ section of the family either stayed in the US, or left New Brunswick for the US _well_ over a century ago.

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An association more external (used by the press, for example). You don't find the senate divided between red-shirts and blue-shirts.

 

Probably the closer color association would be the "black hat" vs "white hat" (though even that was loose in the westerns)

I see.

 

Brown ink = Naxi

 

Green ink = Insanity

 

Turquoise ink = femininity; for girls only, (drawn from other threads of this type).

 

 

I've used them all. I guess I've been an effeminate, insane Nazi all these years and never knew it. :o

 

 

Sean :rolleyes:

Sounds legit. :happy: What if someone uses violet in addition to this?

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...What if someone uses violet in addition to this?

Hi Astron,

 

Then you have me in a nutshell, because while I only use brown, green and turquoise inks occasionally; I use Diamine Violet and Imperial Violet quite often - just like a certain, infamous automotive mogul, whose name is escaping me.

 

The point I was laboring to make was that you should be self-assured enough to use whatever color(s) please you and not give a s**t what other people think. ;)

 

Sean :)

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"Every one therefore that shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven." - MT. 10:32

"Any society that will give up liberty to gain security deserves neither and will lose both." - Ben Franklin

Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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I even use orange and yellow... There is no hope for me.

 

Orange I use myself, sparingly; I'm half Irish. :) But yellow? :huh: Who can read it?

 

Sean ;)

https://www.catholicscomehome.org/

 

"Every one therefore that shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven." - MT. 10:32

"Any society that will give up liberty to gain security deserves neither and will lose both." - Ben Franklin

Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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That's the guy - thank you much, Trekker! 👍

https://www.catholicscomehome.org/

 

"Every one therefore that shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven." - MT. 10:32

"Any society that will give up liberty to gain security deserves neither and will lose both." - Ben Franklin

Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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