Pilot Blue-Black Bottled Ink Vs Pilot Namiki Blue-Black - Questions!

[AndWhoDisguisedAs]

Hi Fountain Penners,

 

Some quick (and I'm assuming stupid) questions:

 

I'm just finishing up a small bottle of Pilot Blue Black ink that was given to me by a FPN member some time ago. Love the color, that it's a "dry" ink (just learned that), and how fast it dries. I'm looking to buy more and there appears to be several to choice from.

 

So, my questions are:

 

1. Is Pilot Blue-Black Japanese Import (as noted on Amazon) the same as Pilot Namiki Blue-Black? (If they're not, I don't care why, just where to buy the Pilot Blue-Black.)

 

2. Are either the same as the more expensive Pilot Iroshizuku Blue-Black Bottled Fountain Pen Ink (and if so, which one).

 

3. I'm open to suggestions for other Blue-Blacks, provided they're fast dry inks.

 

Thank you!

[Olya]

1. Yes, all "Pilot" and "Pilot Namiki" inks are the very same. The blue, blue black and black are all the same regardless of quantity, packaging (bottle or cartridge) or brand name.

 

2. Iro inks are all a different shade to Pilot's regular lineup, but Shin-Kai is close to blue black and black ink (Take-Sumi) is usually black ink, so not sure the iro mark-up is worth it over the standard black.

 

3. Not exactly labelled blue black, but amazing are Sailor's standard blue, Yonaga, J Herbin Bleu des Profondeurs, Diamine Oxford Blue.

[AndWhoDisguisedAs]

Perfect. Thank you.

[lapis]

1. Yes, all "Pilot" and "Pilot Namiki" inks are the very same. The blue, blue black and black are all the same regardless of quantity, packaging (bottle or cartridge) or brand name.

 

Not quite. Check this.

[Olya]

Not quite. Check this.

Indeed, though that is the "Mixable Colour Blue Black Exclusive for Parallel Pen", which is another animal imo and also marketed differently to Pilot's whole other ink lineup, so I didn't include this though I did remember and thought about it.

[Honeybadgers]

1. Yes, all "Pilot" and "Pilot Namiki" inks are the very same. The blue, blue black and black are all the same regardless of quantity, packaging (bottle or cartridge) or brand name.

 

2. Iro inks are all a different shade to Pilot's regular lineup, but Shin-Kai is close to blue black and black ink (Take-Sumi) is usually black ink, so not sure the iro mark-up is worth it over the standard black.

 

3. Not exactly labelled blue black, but amazing are Sailor's standard blue, Yonaga, J Herbin Bleu des Profondeurs, Diamine Oxford Blue.

 

 

In honesty, black is usually pretty just black is black, but in reality, take sumi does have some silvery reddish sheen on good paper that pilot black does not.

 

It also feathers and bleeds a bit more.

 

For me, the performance of black on all papers is what matters most, so for those colors, it's pelikan 4001 and noodlers X feather and noodlers dark matter.

 

Not quite. Check this.

 

That looks close enough (apart from the mixable which is crazy off) that I'd consider the differences to be not statistically significant.

 

the pilot mixable stuff is its own beast.