Does Anybody Make A Clone Of Parker 75 Cicele (Sterling Silver)?

[InvisibleInk]

Hello

I have tried unsuccessfully to find a pen that looks like the vintage parker 75 sterling silver (cicele).

Do you know if anybody makes such a pen or something close to it?

I know these pens could be found used, but I want to buy a new one (never sold before).

thanks in advance

[FarmBoy]

Why not buy a real 75?

[Glenn-SC]

Why not buy a real 75?

What he said!

 

If you are looking for an unused pen to keep as a "Collectors Piece", then buying some kind of a "clone" won't work.

If you intend to use the pen then just buy a already used 75.

[jchch1950]

Pilot or Namiki, that depends where you live, offer a sterling silver pen.

[InvisibleInk]

Why not buy a real 75?

They don't make any more. I would gladly buy a new or unsold item.

However I do not like to buy a used item especially something as personal as a pen.

Imagine you are holding the pen and sitting exactly as the former owner of that pen was sitting. You are indeed mimicking him, taking his place. Taking place of a most probably dead person. Well, what if his spirit spooked into you?! All his sadness, misfortunes, maybe even sickness. Call me an idiot but I think it is too close for comfort.

Of course the other way around could work too, all his good fortune, happiness, luck,.... But with my luck most probably I will end up with his bald head not his fortune!

[Mr.Rene]

They don't make any more. I would gladly buy a new or unsold item.

However I do not like to buy a used item especially something as personal as a pen.

Imagine you are holding the pen and sitting exactly as the former owner of that pen was sitting. You are indeed mimicking him, taking his place. Taking place of a most probably dead person. Well, what if his spirit spooked into you?! All his sadness, misfortunes, maybe even sickness. Call me an idiot but I think it is too close for comfort.

Of course the other way around could work too, all his good fortune, happiness, luck,.... But with my luck most probably I will end up with his bald head not his fortune!

[carlos.q]

 

However I do not like to buy a used item especially something as personal as a pen.

Imagine you are holding the pen and sitting exactly as the former owner of that pen was sitting. You are indeed mimicking him, taking his place. Taking place of a most probably dead person. Well, what if his spirit spooked into you?! All his sadness, misfortunes, maybe even sickness. Call me an idiot but I think it is too close for comfort.

 

 

Strangely enough if everyone believed this there would not be a market for vintage pens.

 

Even stranger... I know of a place a few miles from home where there is a NOS Parker 75 Cicele for sale. Didn't buy it because it was too expensive.

[inkstainedruth]

InvisibleInk -- I have mostly vintage pens. And most of them were of course, not NOS, which is what it sounds as if you want. And frankly, I even have a few pens with engravings from their former owners. And I think that's sort of neat, actually, and have wondered about the person. In one case, a Wearever a vendor at an antiques fair *gave* me (on the grounds that "he couldn't sell it" ) I was able to track the name down to that of a jewelry store in Canonsburg, PA in the 1940s or 1950s (the building was later turned into an antiques mall, sadly closed before I could take the pen in and say "Hey, look at this! This was from this very sport originally, I think!" In another instance, a 1937 Parker Vacumatic Red Shadow Wave, I was unable to track down info; I would have liked to say to that person's heirs that I wanted them to know that the pen is in good hands and in working condition (that pen has been in constant rotation -- without flushing or nib-flossing or ANYTHING in the way of maintenance in over 4 *years* at this point -- although I do now have to take some thread sealant to the blind cap jewel threading...). The pen is gorgeous, I got it for a good price (I think I wasn't outbid because of the engraving which "lowered its value", and I saw one almost identical to mine the next day for two and a half times what I'd paid, including the buyers' premium....

I'm afraid that when I first saw this thread, all I could think was "Oh that person is just asking for trouble -- someone is going to come along and make a "replica" and then sell it fraudulently as a real 75...." (You should see all the threads in the MB forum which start with "Is this real or a fake?"; and I've even seen posts asking whether a Lamy Safari was real or fake.... )

I'm also afraid that you have very few options: (1) Suck it up and buy a vintage 75 as a couple of people have already told you (they seem to run about $90-150 US on average on eBay at the moment) which is in the range of the one I saw at an estate sale last winter but decided that with a bad nib I couldn't afford it -- although it was an attractive looking pen, so I now understand the desire for one); (2) buy some other brand's sterling silver pen (I've been lusting after a Yard-o-Led Viceroy Victorian pretty much since I joined FPN in 2012 and saw photos of someone's -- but that is the "when I win the lottery" pen -- the last time I checked, it cost way more than what the 75s on eBay are priced at); or (3) you can hope and pray that you luck into a NOS one for something resembling an *affordable* price -- but I think your odds of that happening are somewhere between "slim" and "none". I won't say it's completely out of the question (after all, I've lucked into some real "sumgai" deals at estate sales and antiques malls because I knew what the vendor had -- and clearly the vendor *didn't*... but never a 75 (Ciselé or otherwise).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[shalitha33]

There may be an option , but its going to be a bit difficult and costly . make your own. basically get NOS parts that are matching and assemble your own pen. This is obviously not a good advice, but thats all I could think of. sorry.

 

where to find such parts is the next thing. may be try fivestarpens, penparts store, pentooling etc. and ofcource the ebay.

 

http://fivestarpens.com/parker-75-vp-parts.html

http://fivestarpens.com/parker-75.html

https://www.penpartsstore.com/collections/parker-75

https://pentooling.com/parker75.html

 

its probably going to cost a bit and you may need to get some one who know what they are doing to assemble it. Again i must stress that this is not a good advice, its just a possibility . sorry

[ngekomo]

How about the modern Parker Sonnet Ciselé Sterling Silver

[sansenri]

They don't make any more. I would gladly buy a new or unsold item.

However I do not like to buy a used item especially something as personal as a pen.

Imagine you are holding the pen and sitting exactly as the former owner of that pen was sitting. You are indeed mimicking him, taking his place. Taking place of a most probably dead person. Well, what if his spirit spooked into you?! All his sadness, misfortunes, maybe even sickness. Call me an idiot but I think it is too close for comfort.

Of course the other way around could work too, all his good fortune, happiness, luck,.... But with my luck most probably I will end up with his bald head not his fortune!

 

check them out, it was a popular model, there's still some mint ones around, mine was

 

With regards to used pens I probably have more used pens than new. It's actually quite interesting to get to know the original owners and when they are no longer with us none of what you say will ever concern me. I do have a few such pens, and in a way I feel honored to take care of their pens, to extend their lives and memory through use of their pens, to own a pen that has outlived generations and is now in my responsibility.

I believe you may have to re-think this.

[Glenn-SC]

They don't make any more. I would gladly buy a new or unsold item.

However I do not like to buy a used item especially something as personal as a pen.

Imagine you are holding the pen and sitting exactly as the former owner of that pen was sitting. You are indeed mimicking him, taking his place. Taking place of a most probably dead person. Well, what if his spirit spooked into you?! All his sadness, misfortunes, maybe even sickness. Call me an idiot but I think it is too close for comfort.

Of course the other way around could work too, all his good fortune, happiness, luck,.... But with my luck most probably I will end up with his bald head not his fortune!

 

I guess you don't go to the theater or restaurant, ride in a bus or an airplane, or in a car and sit in a "used" chair!

 

[Freddy]

They don't make any more. I would gladly buy a new or unsold item.

However I do not like to buy a used item especially something as personal as a pen.

Imagine you are holding the pen and sitting exactly as the former owner of that pen was sitting. You are indeed mimicking him, taking his place. Taking place of a most probably dead person. Well, what if his spirit spooked into you?! All his sadness, misfortunes, maybe even sickness. Call me an idiot but I think it is too close for comfort.

Of course the other way around could work too, all his good fortune, happiness, luck,.... But with my luck most probably I will end up with his bald head not his fortune!

InvisibleInk For your consideration howabout a NOS Parker 75?

Any other concerns..contact a Shaman to remove any invasive/negative energies and or curses...

If that fails call heavy hitter Father Damien Karras..not the dude from Molokai'...............

Lastly..one can paint a good luck symbol on the box that comes with the pen................

Best of luck in your quest..

Fred

[Glenn-SC]

If you want a Parker 75 buy a Parker 75.

 

If you want something else buy something else.

 

Buying a "clone" that some company produces is just ripping off Parker. IMHO

[pajaro]

Hello

I have tried unsuccessfully to find a pen that looks like the vintage parker 75 sterling silver (cicele).

Do you know if anybody makes such a pen or something close to it?

I know these pens could be found used, but I want to buy a new one (never sold before).

thanks in advance

 

Buy NOS (New Old Stock), essentially a new pen, uninked.

[penrivers]

Funny, there is no God, no other world, no ghosts, just this, and dust to dust. I remember that Mr. Ronald Reagan the former president used one. You can find severals in Peyton street pens.

[InvisibleInk]

FRREDY I tired but it is difficult to write with a pen when a bulb of garlic is tied to it

 

GLEN-SC I have to disagree with you on that. A design patent as far as I Know has a 20 year life span and after that anybody can legally and morally use that design. Think of all the wonderful Chinese or Indian pens that are available to us if they did not make copies or clones (not to mention at a fraction of the price). Also, when the original company is not producing that item what is wrong with another (more efficient and less greedy) company offering that product.

 

NGEKOMO in my humble opinion the old design of 75 Cicele is far superior to modern Sonnetes. Whoever came up with metal section should be hanged.

 

SHALITHA33 that is a brilliant idea. Thanks for suggesting it. I will try that.

 

PAJARO I would if I find one that was actually NOS not new because it was sitting in closet of some dude untouched for 70 years.

 

 

PENRIVERS let's not get theological on a Friday weekend is coming, and I won't hold Reagan using the pen against the poor pen. But thanks anyways.

 

SANSENRI that is one beautiful pen.

 

INKSTAINEDRUTH thanks for the advice.

 

OK guys I hear what you say. Don't blame me when one day as you are holding an old pen suddenly words start to appear that you did not write

Edited September 13, 2019 by InvisibleInk

[OCArt]

I suggest you contact Li-Tah Wong who runs the website Parker75.com. You'll find his email address on that site and he sold me a brand new (NOS) Parker 75 a couple of years ago. Don't be discouraged if you don't see one on his site for sale, he may have some not yet listed. Just tell him what you want and what nib size you desire.

 

Edited to say that he does currently list some.

Hello

I have tried unsuccessfully to find a pen that looks like the vintage parker 75 sterling silver (cicele).

Do you know if anybody makes such a pen or something close to it?

I know these pens could be found used, but I want to buy a new one (never sold before).

thanks in advance

Edited September 13, 2019 by OCArt

[InvisibleInk]

OCART I just looked at that web site. It's cover page congratulates the visitors for new year 2014! I think he might be communicating with you from the other side That makes the pen even more scary for me if he had one.

Edited September 13, 2019 by InvisibleInk

[shalitha33]

btw i wasn't really serious about making your own parker . Not saying its not feasible to do, but it probably will cost a bit more than what its worth. Its an old pen but its not that old. you may even find several second hand pens with the original owners still very much alive and well.

 

Also whats the reason for going with a parker 75? is it something that you want strictly or is it that you just like that design. If you are not too worried about the cost it may be better to get a pen smith custom build you a pen for your taste with measurements to best fit your hand.