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Platinum Classic Iron Gall Inks - Gold Nib Only?


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Hello,

 

I purchased some platinum classic inks without realizing what iron gall means. Is it true that I should only put these inks in a gold nib and no steel nibs? I'm asking because I only have one pen that has a gold nib and I bought quite of few of these sample inks. Plus, I am curious.

 

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I had some plating wear off a gold-plated steel nib after using iron gall ink in the pen for many months, but it's possible that the plating would have worn off regardless of the ink I used.

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Should be just fine with modern stainless steel nibbed pens:

https://fountainpenfollies.com/2017/07/12/update-testing-platinum-classic-line-iron-gall-inks-with-a-stainless-steel-nib-fountain-pen/

 

Do avoid piston fillers, however, just in case. Pens with converters would be safe.

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I happily fill my Pelikan M200 Smoky Quartz pen, which is a piston-filler with a gold-plated steel nib, with Platinum Classic Ink Khaki Black. Nothing untoward has happened to the pen, and it writes very much to my liking, even though the pen has been filled with that iron-gall ink from Day One and has never been empty in the past few months.

 

My Monteverde Rodeo Drive with a silver-coloured steel Stub nib had Lavender Black in it for months, and is still perfectly okay, although right now it's been cleaned and sitting empty in my pen display case.

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Should be just fine with modern stainless steel nibbed pens:

https://fountainpenfollies.com/2017/07/12/update-testing-platinum-classic-line-iron-gall-inks-with-a-stainless-steel-nib-fountain-pen/

 

Do avoid piston fillers, however, just in case. Pens with converters would be safe.

Could you expand on why you think these inks would be risky in a piston filler?

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I wouldn't be overly concerned with putting iron-gall ink into either a Wing Sung 3008 (albeit that it is Chinese made and oh-so-cheap) or a Pelikan (and I have Platinum Classic Ink Khaki Black ink in my Pelikan M600 Vibrant Orange right now, as well as in my Pelikan M200 Smoky Quartz). It's not as if iron-gall inks are the only common acidic inks, and frankly I haven't seen any of my iron-gall inks form sediment (that would be apt to interfere with the rubber "seal" at the bottom end of a piston).

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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Could you expand on why you think these inks would be risky in a piston filler?

 

I guess I should have rather said any pen that has exposed metal portions that can come in contact with the ink, other than the stainless steel nib. Those might not be made of stainless steel / can be something that can get corroded.

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I put IG inks into my steel-nib Parker Vectors all the time. I've never had an issue. If it was a dip pen, that would be another story.

The only issue with IG inks is that pens they're used in should be flushed a little more often, and that you should use vinegar solution instead of ammonia solution, at least to start with, flushing before and after with distilled water.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

ETA: I really like the Platinum Classic Forest Black and Lavender Black inks, BTW.

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Should be just fine with modern stainless steel nibbed pens:

https://fountainpenfollies.com/2017/07/12/update-testing-platinum-classic-line-iron-gall-inks-with-a-stainless-steel-nib-fountain-pen/

 

Do avoid piston fillers, however, just in case. Pens with converters would be safe.

 

I've used a lot of IG through the years, and never had a problem in my piston Pelikan. All it needs is the nib/feed pulled and a q-tip run around the piston once every few months, and a toothpick with a touch of silicone grease every quarter or so. Running smooth as silk with Diamine Registrar, which is one of the classic IGs.

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Should be just fine with modern stainless steel nibbed pens:

https://fountainpenfollies.com/2017/07/12/update-testing-platinum-classic-line-iron-gall-inks-with-a-stainless-steel-nib-fountain-pen/

 

Do avoid piston fillers, however, just in case. Pens with converters would be safe.

 

Thanks for the link! I found it very useful. I would never go that far testing it out in a pen but I'm thankful someone did, for science.

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I wouldn't be overly concerned with putting iron-gall ink into either a Wing Sung 3008 (albeit that it is Chinese made and oh-so-cheap) or a Pelikan (and I have Platinum Classic Ink Khaki Black ink in my Pelikan M600 Vibrant Orange right now, as well as in my Pelikan M200 Smoky Quartz). It's not as if iron-gall inks are the only common acidic inks, and frankly I haven't seen any of my iron-gall inks form sediment (that would be apt to interfere with the rubber "seal" at the bottom end of a piston).

 

Thank you for replying to my post. I feel much better knowing that if others have tired it and nothing has happened then most likely its safe to use in a steel nib.

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I put IG inks into my steel-nib Parker Vectors all the time. I've never had an issue. If it was a dip pen, that would be another story.

The only issue with IG inks is that pens they're used in should be flushed a little more often, and that you should use vinegar solution instead of ammonia solution, at least to start with, flushing before and after with distilled water.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

ETA: I really like the Platinum Classic Forest Black and Lavender Black inks, BTW.

 

I don't think that would be a problem. I do tend to clean out my pens on a monthly basis, but I just use normal tap water. Maybe I'll try vinegar with lukewarm water in the pen that I'll be using IG ink.

 

Yes! I have both Forest Black and Lavender Black. I also found Cassis black quite interesting too. One more reason why I wanted to use my steel nib pen was because its in a medium nib. My gold nib is a Japanese fine, which I love but it doesn't show the ink as well.

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I've the regular Platinum Blue-Black in a Pelikam M805 and have had no issues at all. This ink isn't quite as 'galling' I believe, though...

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