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It has been a very long time since I have posted here. I recently just got an TWISBI- ECO with a stub nib. It was my birthday and my wife asked what I wanted after much thought I decided I wanted to get an eco. I sent my wife a link to amazon that showed an eco. I didn't even think about which nib it had on it and to my surprise I got a stub nib! I was not sure what to do I had meant to get a med or fine nib. Well I inked it up and fell in love with it! It makes my cursive look like I want it to. My handwriting teds to be small and cramped so the stub nib helps me to open it up and adds some nice wider parts that look awesome. I like that eco as well. So far it has been great and no complaints. Well I'll leave it there. Thanks for allowing me to rave a bit.

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Back in the day of dip pens, stubs were considered the pens to use when you needed to write quickly and smoothly. I'm a fan as well, and while I don't use them all the time, periodically I'll get one out and have fun with it. (both in fountain as well as dip pens)

 

I wrote a little about them on my steel dip pen site. https://thesteelpen.com/2018/02/05/stub-pens/

 

Here's a comparison I did one time between a stub dip pen (Hunt X-62) on the left, and a pointed dip pen (Eagle E840) on the right.

 

fpn_1556300973__stub_pointed_comparison.

 

“When the historians of education do equal and exact justice to all who have contributed toward educational progress, they will devote several pages to those revolutionists who invented steel pens and blackboards.” V.T. Thayer, 1928

 

Check out my Steel Pen Blog. As well as The Esterbrook Project.

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I too am a fan of stubs. I have converted my Lamys and Metropolitans to stubs. I bought a Twisbi Go with a stub. I wish there were other affordable stub nibs. I had hopes for the Sailor Calligraphy 1.5, but so far I much prefer the other nibs.

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I oscillate between stubs and fines, but they are delightful things. For some reason most of mine are Mabie Todds and it's delightful to operate a stub with flex.

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I oscillate between stubs and fines, but they are delightful things. For some reason most of mine are Mabie Todds and it's delightful to operate a stub with flex.

 

Absolutely!

 

I have some Mabie Todd Swan stubs (F, M and B ) and one Calligraph (italic type).

The F and Calligraph have a smaller sweet spot about the writing angle / rotation, while M and B are perfect for fast notes...

The flex on demand is fascinating...

 

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Jens

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Oddly, I haven’t seen any broad or stub nibs among the gold-nibbed dip pens I’ve collected. I suspect the gold nibs are for a type of writing that depended on flex: restricted to calligraphers or women.

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Oddly, I haven’t seen any broad or stub nibs among the gold-nibbed dip pens I’ve collected. I suspect the gold nibs are for a type of writing that depended on flex: restricted to calligraphers or women.

Stub Metallic pens were first introduced around 1850’s. Esterbrook didn’t make their first one until 1871. The reason to use a stub pen, according to contemporary accounts, was that it was smoother than a pointed pen and so facilitated rapid, smooth writing. They were marketed to professions that required a lot of writing: judge, attorney, lawyer, congressional, chancellor...

 

My guess as to the dearth of stub gold pens is that because of the tipping, you did not need a stub for the pen to be smooth and a rapid writer. Without this need, you could just stick with a “regular” pen.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were gold stubs, they copied a lot of what the steel pen makers were doing, but they are definitely not common.

 

I have a little bit on stub pens here. https://thesteelpen.com/2018/02/05/stub-pens/

 

“When the historians of education do equal and exact justice to all who have contributed toward educational progress, they will devote several pages to those revolutionists who invented steel pens and blackboards.” V.T. Thayer, 1928

 

Check out my Steel Pen Blog. As well as The Esterbrook Project.

"No one is exempt from talking nonsense; the mistake is to do it solemnly."

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Back in the day of dip pens, stubs were considered the pens to use when you needed to write quickly and smoothly. I'm a fan as well, and while I don't use them all the time, periodically I'll get one out and have fun with it. (both in fountain as well as dip pens)

 

I wrote a little about them on my steel dip pen site. https://thesteelpen.com/2018/02/05/stub-pens/

 

Here's a comparison I did one time between a stub dip pen (Hunt X-62) on the left, and a pointed dip pen (Eagle E840) on the right.

 

 

fpn_1556300973__stub_pointed_comparison.

 

Very nice penmanship!

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I too have taken an interest in stub nibs. They seem to slow my hand down and make me write a bit larger, and easier to read. Definitely makes my pathetic scratchings a bit more presentable.

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My absolute favorite nibs. I have 4 TWSBI Eco pens. One I had no choice on nibs, and it came with a F nib. Now it has a Nemosine 1.1mm stub nib. I have tried to make nib choice the deciding factor in pen buying, but I break my own rule sometimes.

 

Conklin has a nice 1.1, and this year Retro 51 came out with a 1.1 nib which is another nice writer. Of course there’s Lamy.

 

I have found the TWSBI Diamond 580 1.1 stub writes wider than the Eco/Mini 1.1.

 

If you want to see more, check out the Stub of the Day thread.

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It has been a very long time since I have posted here. I recently just got an TWISBI- ECO with a stub nib. It was my birthday and my wife asked what I wanted after much thought I decided I wanted to get an eco. I sent my wife a link to amazon that showed an eco. I didn't even think about which nib it had on it and to my surprise I got a stub nib! I was not sure what to do I had meant to get a med or fine nib. Well I inked it up and fell in love with it! It makes my cursive look like I want it to. My handwriting teds to be small and cramped so the stub nib helps me to open it up and adds some nice wider parts that look awesome. I like that eco as well. So far it has been great and no complaints. Well I'll leave it there. Thanks for allowing me to rave a bit.

 

I have just had the same experience! Wrote with round nibs for years, and then tried a Nemosine Fission with a 0.6mm JoWo #6 stub. My cursive writing is dramatically better. I think the stub forces my hand to be steadier and keep a more consistent angle, so the slant is much more consistent than with a round nib. Especially when I write with a Pelikan, with its very smooth and wet nib.

 

Question for everyone: If I get my Pelikan F nib (0.5 mm) ground to a Cursive Italic, will it give me the same type of improvement as with the stub above? Also attracted to the more crisp edges and line variation....

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Hi

I'm a new convert to stub and italic nibs after writing with a fine or extra fine nib for almost 40 years.

What a difference the stub nib makes to both the inks used and my hand writing!

I'm now converting a number of my pens to the stub or italic nibs. B)

Cheers

AA

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