Is There A Less Shading Kon Peki?

[CoolBreeze]

I got a sample of Kon Peki and, to my surprise, I actually really like it. The lighter portions are a beautiful lighter blue that do not look washed out, watered down, pale, or basic. The darker portions are richly saturated. However, the read-back on large pages of writing can sometimes be a little distracting due to the shading.

 

Is there an ink(s) that resembles the color (it doesn’t have to be exact) but that is richly saturated and doesn’t shade as much? Even multiple inks that range from the lighter portions of Kon Peki to the darker would be interesting in trying out. I am just looking for a more consistent color - I know I am an oddball in wanting less shading. Thanks in advance.

 

[senzen]

Depends very much on the pen and the paper, I am currently using it in three:

 

EF Studio gives me a light ink with little to no shading.

F M205 with a bit of cellophane between the nib and the feed gives me a medium ink with some shading.

M Metropolitan gives me a dark ink with no shading, looks like on the box.

 

http://i67.tinypic.com/2uhscvm.jpg

[CoolBreeze]

Depends very much on the pen and the paper, I am currently using it in three:

 

EF Studio gives me a light ink with little to no shading.

F M205 with a bit of cellophane between the nib and the feed gives me a medium ink with some shading.

M Metropolitan gives me a dark ink with no shading, looks like on the box.

 

http://i67.tinypic.com/2uhscvm.jpg

Wow - that is a huge color change. I put it in a few pens and it never got that dark for me with no shading (as in your third example - I like it!). Parts of letters got that dark but not the entire letter like your third example. I would love to find a color that writes consistently without shading anywhere in a color range of your middle one to your last one. As for your first example, I have had the same experience in that Kon-peki in a dry pen looks very close to ama-iro I think that is just a little too light.

[minddance]

kon Pek can be made less shady, it depends on pen and paper. it seems like you prefer the darker values of the ink? have a pen tuned really wet so that it drops ink onto paper. And/or write on real absorbent papers.

 

if you prefer a consistently light version, pens like Platinum 3776 EF, F, M， Sailor Somiko B, will give you that without much shading.

 

no, you are not an oddball because I prefer consistency too, especially in smaller writing with lots of details. too much shading in this case irritates and confuses me. however, for larger fonts and less words, shading appeals to me.

[A Smug Dill]

However, the read-back on large pages of writing can sometimes be a little distracting due to the shading.

Are you talking about large pages of writing done with an EF nib, or with a 1.1mm (or wider) Italic nib? Most of the inks I have tested that are rich in colour will look significantly differently coming out from a 'dry' pen and a 'wet' pen – and if you're writing with a wide Italic or Stub nib with an x-height of 5mm or more, you're going to see both: some strokes will be significantly drier than others, depending on the line width and speed of the motion, unless you're writing slowly. On the other hand, if you're using a nib with narrow and round tipping, you'd be far more likely to get a more even look from an ink.

[CoolBreeze]

kon Pek can be made less shady, it depends on pen and paper. it seems like you prefer the darker values of the ink? have a pen tuned really wet so that it drops ink onto paper. And/or write on real absorbent papers.

 

if you prefer a consistently light version, pens like Platinum 3776 EF, F, M， Sailor Somiko B, will give you that without much shading.

 

no, you are not an oddball because I prefer consistency too, especially in smaller writing with lots of details. too much shading in this case irritates and confuses me. however, for larger fonts and less words, shading appeals to me.

I do like the darker values of the ink a lot. I'm am a little worried about making a pen wetter because then I may have a problem with dry time, that is why I was hoping to find a new ink, but I hear what you are saying. How do you recommend making a pen wetter? Just spreading the tines? I should probably google this!

 

Are you saying the Platinum 3776 run dry? It has been vaguely on my radar but this might nix that.

Edited March 20, 2019 by CoolBreeze

[CoolBreeze]

Are you talking about large pages of writing done with an EF nib, or with a 1.1mm (or wider) Italic nib? Most of the inks I have tested that are rich in colour will look significantly differently coming out from a 'dry' pen and a 'wet' pen – and if you're writing with a wide Italic or Stub nib with an x-height of 5mm or more, you're going to see both: some strokes will be significantly drier than others, depending on the line width and speed of the motion, unless you're writing slowly. On the other hand, if you're using a nib with narrow and round tipping, you'd be far more likely to get a more even look from an ink.

 

I hear what you are saying with the fact that inks look different in different pens. I feel the pens I have been using are all moderately wet (definitely not as wet as the 3rd set of writings in the picture above) and include a Bexely Promethius (medium), Faber Castell Loom (3 of them actually in medium, 2 in fine), Pilot Prera (Medium), and Pilot Metropolitan (Medium).

 

I have found a few inks that look the same no matter what pen I use to include: Private Reserve Tanzanite, Monteverde Sapphire,Pilot Iroshizuku Asa-gao, DeA Hyacinth, DeA Doc Blue, Noodler's Bad Blue Heron, Noodler's Legal Blue, Noodler's 54th Massachusetts,

 

Pilot Iroshizuku Ama-Iro only shades in very wet pens - the other times it just looks like a light blue.

 

Monteverde Horizon Blue, Diamine Blue Velvet, Diamine Sapphire, J. Herbin Eclat de Saphir, and Pilot Iroshizuku Kon Peki all shade no matter what pen I use - they might look slightly different in each pen but they do all shade.

 

Monteverde Ocean Noir and Organics Studio Nitrogen have different colors in the letters but it is due to the sheen and not the shading - still distracting to me though.

 

That is all I can remember off the top of my head - limited experience as it is.

Edited March 20, 2019 by CoolBreeze

[Intensity]

In my experience, Birmingham Pen Co "Truss Blue" has very low shading and is a look-alike of Sailor Souten. Souten doesn't have that tinge of turquoise-green that Kon-Peki has, but it's still in that bright blue category.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/330899-birmingham-pen-co-smithfield-st-bridge-truss-blue/

[CoolBreeze]

In my experience, Birmingham Pen Co "Truss Blue" has very low shading and is a look-alike of Sailor Souten. Souten doesn't have that tinge of turquoise-green that Kon-Peki has, but it's still in that bright blue category.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/330899-birmingham-pen-co-smithfield-st-bridge-truss-blue/

Thanks! Birmingham inks were not even on my radar!

[ridiculopathy]

Until you find a better substitute, evaporation makes it more saturated.

[eharriett]

Noodler's Revolution Blue. One of the best shading inks I've ever seen. It is both a light and a dark blue. I keep it regularly in an Ahab. The flex makes it work.

 

MAJOR WORD OF WARNING: this ink stains pens a la Baystate Blue!!!

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/291475-noodlers-revolution-blue-goldspotcom-exclusive/

[Tweel]

Possibly Pelikan Edelstein Topaz?

[eharriett]

Possibly Pelikan Edelstein Topaz?

Oh, now **THAT** is a side by side comparison I'd be very interested in seeing!

[Tweel]

Here's one, of sorts. The pictures are namrehsnoom's, from his FPN reviews of these inks:

 

 

[eharriett]

Damn, that appears to be a near dead ringer.

[ridiculopathy]

I find Kon-Peki to be a wee bit brighter than Topaz. But it's like the difference between Sailor Sky High and Sailor Souten--only noticeable when you're looking for it.

[senzen]

There's only one Kon Peki. Or maybe three.

[Tweel]

I find Kon-Peki to be a wee bit brighter than Topaz.

 

I only have Topaz, so my suggestion was kind of a guess. Have you noticed a difference in their shading?

[ridiculopathy]

I think they both demonstrate lovely shading.

But, I haven't been scientific when making my comparisons (e.g. using the same pen, same paper, at the same time).

 

This direct comparison may answer your questions more thoroughly, although they found topaz to be the brighter one!

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/308761-ink-shoot-out-pelikan-edelstein-topaz-vs-pilot-iroshizuku-kon-peki/

[CoolBreeze]

I think they both demonstrate lovely shading.

But, I haven't been scientific when making my comparisons (e.g. using the same pen, same paper, at the same time).

 

This direct comparison may answer your questions more thoroughly, although they found topaz to be the brighter one!

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/308761-ink-shoot-out-pelikan-edelstein-topaz-vs-pilot-iroshizuku-kon-peki/

I believe it was this review that made me chose Kon Peki over Topaz - I wanted a darker color.