Really, Really Weird Pen That I Have

[fplover5]

i have something interesting to share

this is one of the strangest fountain pen i own.

well, i am not even sure this thing can be called a fountain pen

all the parts are made of solid aluminum 6061 T6.

ink storage, eyedropper style

even the FEED was made of ALUMINUM!!!

the feed has gone missing unfortunately,,,

may have to make a feed for it someday, out of ebonite, or metal??!

but that's for later...

due to the way it looks, it's called "the teardrop pen"

the nib is teardrop shaped.

unfortunately sheet nib in such design will not function properly,

because it is simply too thin and too long to write with!

oh yea, BTW, this fountain pen can be used as a lethal weapon.

just dip the point in poison and use it as a stabbing weapon!!

gotta be careful with this stuff.

hope ya'll enjoyed it

PS: check out the "fountain pen making" section of the forum, to see my other interesting posts, thanks!

vid: https://youtu.be/4YyS_Zu-rvY

Edited January 28, 2019 by dovidu

[ParkerDuofold]

Hi Dovidu,

 

Interesting pen... never heard of it before now... thanks for the info.

 

But an aluminum feed... ...what were they thinking??? Considering the pH levels of some inks, that would be a corroded, pitted mess in short order... I would think... unless it was coated with some kind of sealant... but then that would open another can of worms.

 

Be well... and thanks again.

 

 

- Anthony

 

P.S.: I haven't watched the video yet... perhaps it'll explain the virtues of an aluminum feed.

[fplover5]

oh actually i made the pen XD

 

what was i thinking!!! using alu.....

 

destined to fail??

Edited January 27, 2019 by dovidu

[SoulSamurai]

That is the most unique fountain pen I've ever seen! Very cool, I love the nib and the way it completely encloses the feed. Have you tried writing with it? I feel like the nib really needs at least second slit at 90 degrees to the first, so it has four tines (if not three cuts for six tines) so that it would be able to write even when rotated. Well, I assume this is just an experiment; it does sound like it would need a little more work to be practical (tipped stainless steel, titanium or gold nib, ink insulated from body or a different body material), but that's normal for something so creative and different from the norm. Ever considered a kickstarter? Do the whole thing in titanium (people love titanium) and I think it could be pretty popular!

[WirsPlm]

That is the most unique fountain pen I've ever seen! Very cool, I love the nib and the way it completely encloses the feed. Have you tried writing with it? I feel like the nib really needs at least second slit at 90 degrees to the first, so it has four tines (if not three cuts for six tines) so that it would be able to write even when rotated. Well, I assume this is just an experiment; it does sound like it would need a little more work to be practical (tipped stainless steel, titanium or gold nib, ink insulated from body or a different body material), but that's normal for something so creative and different from the norm. Ever considered a kickstarter? Do the whole thing in titanium (people love titanium) and I think it could be pretty popular!

Before you suggest a four tine nib you should try one, in my experience they are amazingly difficult to make smooth and are generally a bad idea since the inner cross will stay sharp and catch on the page, although before we can really say anything about whether this pen is a good idea or not we need to know a lot more about it I can say that what I've seen so far does not fill me with confidence and I think OP should go back to the drawing board a little bit since not having thought about ink and aluminum chemical interactions makes me think there are other important factors they are also not thinking of.

[SoulSamurai]

Before you suggest a four tine nib you should try one, in my experience they are amazingly difficult to make smooth and are generally a bad idea since the inner cross will stay sharp and catch on the page, although before we can really say anything about whether this pen is a good idea or not we need to know a lot more about it I can say that what I've seen so far does not fill me with confidence and I think OP should go back to the drawing board a little bit since not having thought about ink and aluminum chemical interactions makes me think there are other important factors they are also not thinking of.

 

 

I have a four-tined nib, but it's a cheap Hero and I chalked it's problems up to being a cheap Hero. I've heard positive accounts of welded nibs like the Sailor "Cross" nibs (I think that's what they're called?), so it seems four tines can be done well.

 

My impression from this thread and others from the OP is that he is a hobbyist; my assumption is that he made this pen for fun and to experiment (like I said in my earlier post). One of the purposes of experimentation of course is to find out about the issues that you seem to think probably exist with this pen. Besides, a test model or proof of concept doesn't need to be made in the final material.

 

Regardless of how well this particular specimen works in practice, it is quite unique and I find it very interesting and very much enjoyed reading about it and watching the video. I think Dovidu is very skilled, his work is far more advanced in some ways than what I've seen from most pen turners (I'm not saying that more advanced stuff doesn't exist, but his work is certainly very high up there) - rather than just use standard nib units he has actually created his own nibs, and even tipped some of them himself. He has tried things I haven't seen before (such as the pen in this post, or tipping nibs with tungsten carbide). I've enjoyed his posts a great deal and hope to see more of them.

[WirsPlm]

 

 

I have a four-tined nib, but it's a cheap Hero and I chalked it's problems up to being a cheap Hero. I've heard positive accounts of welded nibs like the Sailor "Cross" nibs (I think that's what they're called?), so it seems four tines can be done well.

 

My impression from this thread and others from the OP is that he is a hobbyist; my assumption is that he made this pen for fun and to experiment (like I said in my earlier post). One of the purposes of experimentation of course is to find out about the issues that you seem to think probably exist with this pen. Besides, a test model or proof of concept doesn't need to be made in the final material.

 

Regardless of how well this particular specimen works in practice, it is quite unique and I find it very interesting and very much enjoyed reading about it and watching the video. I think Dovidu is very skilled, his work is far more advanced in some ways than what I've seen from most pen turners (I'm not saying that more advanced stuff doesn't exist, but his work is certainly very high up there) - rather than just use standard nib units he has actually created his own nibs, and even tipped some of them himself. He has tried things I haven't seen before (such as the pen in this post, or tipping nibs with tungsten carbide). I've enjoyed his posts a great deal and hope to see more of them.

Being an expert in one area (such as pen creation) doesn't mean that he doesn't have blindspots, this is clearly evidenced from his post. There's no need to react defensively and try to defend yourself or your opinion, I've suggested that he rethink some of his choices and spend more time on the material properties of the design, not kicked a busload of puppies or personally insulted your judgement. Edited January 28, 2019 by WirsPlm

[SoulSamurai]

Being an expert in one area (such as pen creation) doesn't mean that he doesn't have blindspots, this is clearly evidenced from his post. There's no need to react defensively and try to defend yourself or your opinion, I've suggested that he rethink some of his choices and spend more time on the material properties of the design, not kicked a busload of puppies or personally insulted your judgement.

I feel as if you're reading too much into my previous post? I certainly wasn't personally insulted. You made some points, I made some counter-points. Sounds like a normal conversarion to me. Additionally, I felt as if either my post or the OP's might have been taken out of context, so I tried to clarify my position; perhaps that read as "defensive" to you.

[fplover5]

That is the most unique fountain pen I've ever seen! Very cool, I love the nib and the way it completely encloses the feed. Have you tried writing with it? I feel like the nib really needs at least second slit at 90 degrees to the first, so it has four tines (if not three cuts for six tines) so that it would be able to write even when rotated. Well, I assume this is just an experiment; it does sound like it would need a little more work to be practical (tipped stainless steel, titanium or gold nib, ink insulated from body or a different body material), but that's normal for something so creative and different from the norm. Ever considered a kickstarter? Do the whole thing in titanium (people love titanium) and I think it could be pretty popular!

 

good insight!

this is actually doable...

maybe titanium or stainless might work

the problem is it won't have any flex, that's the only downside i see.

the nib is completely enclosed indeed!

[ParkerDuofold]

oh actually i made the pen XD

 

what was i thinking!!! using alu.....

 

destined to fail??

Hi Dovidu,

 

When I first responded, I didn't know this was your own creation. Congratulations.

 

But no, don't use aluminum for a feed... and the nib has to be chrome plated stainless steel, titanium, gold or the like... or it will pit and corrode.

 

This is why you cannot use a pen with metal threads as an eyedropper... the ink will corrode the metal and seize the pen shut... the ink will also corrode an aluminum feed or nib the same way.

 

Be well and best wishes for a successful future in the pen industry.

 

 

- Anthony

[PAKMAN]

Cool looking! Al and some inks aren't good friends as some have stated. Noodlers did a test showing how many acidic inks would eat right through Aluminum foil.