Dark Chocolate Brown 51?

[mitto]

I have the pen for quite some time. The color looked to me unusual from day one but somehow lived with it thinking it may have gone thtough some discolouration. Looking at it again today in bright light it clearly gave me chocolate brownish shade. What is it?

 

 

Alongside a plum.

Edited October 8, 2018 by mitto

[pajaro]

Burgundy. I have often suspected that this pen or that 51 I have had pass through my hands has somehow morphed in color. Some of the dark colors and some of the grays looked odd to me. Some experts, including Old Griz said no, they were standard. I still wondered, but defer to the experts with more exposure to pens and more experience. Coming from stamp collecting where there are many color varieties in some stamps, I wondered if there might have been some variations in plastic making on some day or other. Then again, postage stamps are printed with inks.

[mitto]

Thank you, pajaro.

 

The pen side by side with British Bloody Burgundy and US Burgundy.

[mitto]

And side by side with a black.

 

 

[Erik Dalton]

Where was it made motto?

I recently came into possession of an AF Terra-cotta Brown Parker Duofold only made in Denmark. Could it be a one off or nation of origin specific color?

[mitto]

The barrel imrpint is faint. Nib says 'made in USA 1948'. Filler shroud is aluminium with press 6 times inscription (made in USA, again) .

[pajaro]

Possible error: Cordovan plastic on an aerometric 51?

 

Aging, exposure to sunlight, air pollution, or just one of the famous "specials" by Parker people?

 

Or LOK.

Edited October 8, 2018 by pajaro

[Erik Dalton]

Possible error: Cordovan plastic on an aerometric 51?

 

Aging, exposure to sunlight, air pollution, or just one of the famous "specials" by Parker people?

 

Or LOK.

Yea, I agree. Might be a short run of “specials” or prototypes. They did have Chocolate Brown Vacuumatics. Maybe someone had been trying to get the same effect in a Lucite barrel?

 

I have a burgundy that went kind of brownish. Not the deep brown that you have. At first I thought it was Cordovan. Side by side with a real Cordovan, it was a burgundy that had morphed into the realm of browns.

[mitto]

Not a cordovan.

 

The pen side by side with a cordovan vac.

 

 

[mitto]

The pen in real life is very very beautiful. I like the color even more then plum. And I don't think it is some discolored regular P51 color. It is clearly darkest chocolate brown.

[Erik Dalton]

In a weird way that makes sense to me. You may have the prototype chocolate brown P-51’s. It would make sense that they would want to extend the color from the Vacuumatics on into the P-51’s.

I don’t know how you do it Mitto. You keep coming up with these little treasures. Enjoy your pen.

[FarmBoy]

What color is the hood?

[mitto]

I can understand, Todd. No discolouration evidently. Hood is exact same color.

 

Edited October 9, 2018 by mitto

[mitto]

In a weird way that makes sense to me. You may have the prototype chocolate brown P-51’s. It would make sense that they would want to extend the color from the Vacuumatics on into the P-51’s.

I don’t know how you do it Mitto. You keep coming up with these little treasures. Enjoy your pen.

 

Well, they do come my way on their own. I don't search for them.

[MBDostoevsky]

as mitto observes, there is in fact no color difference evident between the barrel and the hood...

 

The chances of discoloration seem to be a bit less probable unless the whole pen is exposed equally to external environment... assuming that the barrel is exposed more to discoloration, one would tend to find the hood retaining a bit of the original color (benefit of being capped and somewhat more protected)... however this is not the case over here...

 

Maybe a different quality/type Lucite used for experimentation purposes (cost cutting measures) in those days, with the original color being black and then slowly turning to brown... just like some vintage black hard rubber pens do... wild guess though

 

or a more probable/likely reason:

 

mitto is simply lucky to get hold of a rare prototype.

[mitto]

Thank you Yasir. But lucite black discolouring and turning into brown is unheared-of. Or may be I am wrong. I can only say there are no signs of change of shade any where on the pen. Even dark chocolate brown colour everywhere from hood tip to barrel end.

[MBDostoevsky]

Thank you Yasir. But lucite black discolouring and turning into brown is unheared-of. Or may be I am wrong. I can only say there are no signs of change of shade any where on the pen. Even dark chocolate brown colour everywhere from hood tip to barrel end.

 

Then the only logical deduction is that you have a prototype!

[JotterAddict62]

Pen must have taken a walkabout away from the model shop in Janesville WI all those years ago and ended up in mitto's grubby little hands..

 

Good catch.....

[mitto]

...thousands miles away on the other side of the globe.

[FarmBoy]

I hesitate to call every off-color pen a prototype, noting that most Parker prototypes are so marked.

 

Have you ever put a lucite part in bleach? Was quite common for a while to do with faded pens followed up with dying them.