Iroshizuku Versus Kyo-No-Oto

[tpsfp]

Hi!

 

Apologies if this is a repeat topic, but I did a very quick google search and dont see anything on point (I saw the maroon post, but the posts dont generally seem to speak to the properties of the ink, and a number of the suggestions seemed to lean a bit in the Brown direction). Also, my color and technical knowdlege is lacking, so sorry if I use the wrong or imprecise terms.

 

I love my Irozhizuku inks (the wetness, flow, saturation, and color change at the edges of letters). However, Im looking for a dark Bordeaux/burgundy/maroon color, and the closest iroshizuku I found (yama budo) was too pink for my liking.

 

Also, I find the Iroshizuku inks skew more towards blues, and was just generally wondering which inks are similar and with additional colors.

 

So, I was wondering if the kyo-no-oto ADZUKIIRO ink would be a good option for the Bordeaux, as well as looking for general thoughts.

 

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts and knowledge!

Edited June 30, 2018 by tpsfp

[Pensei]

If I may be forgiven a suggestion, you might get a sample of Yama-budo. I know reactions to colors are very subjective, but I found this color "in real life" to be quite a bit different from what I had seen digitally. You might like it more than you think.

[ENewton]

Probably I have not tried enough inks of either brand for my contribution to be of significant value, but while you are waiting for better-informed replies, I will comment on my own experience.

 

Two of my favorite inks are Iroshizuku Murasaki Shikibu and Kyo-Iro Soft Snow of Ohara. They are very similar in wetness, flow, and saturation. I have not noticed any dramatic color change at the edges of letters.

 

If for some reason I could not obtain Murasaki Shikibu, there are a few inks similar enough that I could fill the gap. By contrast, there is no ink I have found that could replace Soft Snow of Ohara. It seems to me that TAG Kyoto colors are unique, perhaps because they are formulated using traditional kimono-dyeing techniques.

 

Luckily, one of the best ink reviewers in the world has posted a review of the particular ink that interests you. He mentions that it takes a long time to dry, but whether that is a critical point for you only you can know:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/317805-azukiiro-kyo-no-oto/

[tpsfp]

Pensei - thanks for the great suggestion. I actually ended up picking up the adzukiiro but I will grab some yams budo as well. I always forget that online pictures/samples may not be true representations.

 

ENewton - thank you as well. The link was very helpful, as was your comparison of the inks you have. My experience is that all iroshizuku inks behave generally the same, and Id expect (hope?) that would apply to the Kyoto inks, though understand there seem to be a couple different lines.

[ENewton]

ENewton - thank you as well. The link was very helpful, as was your comparison of the inks you have. My experience is that all iroshizuku inks behave generally the same, and Id expect (hope?) that would apply to the Kyoto inks, though understand there seem to be a couple different lines.

 

There are a couple of different lines, but I don't think that is where the difference lies. I have read that certain of the Kyoto inks are quite dry, notably Moonlight of Higashiyama. I'll be interested in hearing your impressions of Adzukiiro.

[crahptacular]

The Kyoto TAG inks (Kyo no Oto and Kyo-Iro) aren't uniform in their behavior/writing characteristics. Off the top of my head, I recall Ohara, and Nurebairo being on the wet side, while Gion, Fushimi, and Higashiyama were comparatively less lubricated (not extremely dry, but more of a watery consistency/not slippery). The rest, including Adzukiiro, don't stand out in my memory as being particularly wet or dry. It's been a while since I've used those inks, though, so my memory might not be too reliable.

 

From my experience with Iroshizuku inks, they are more consistent in character than Kyoto TAG inks.

[tpsfp]

Thanks again. Finally inked a pen up with the adzukiiro, and as you noted, its not overly wet but definitely not dry either. I still prefer the iroshizuku inks on the whole, but this ink definitely hits the right notes for the color I was looking for, and the shading is more than adequate (just in my very brief experience it looks like there are more light portions of each stroke than I generally got with the iroshizuku).

[Yhudson]

On 7/3/2018 at 5:44 AM, tpsfp said:

Thanks again. Finally inked a pen up with the adzukiiro, and as you noted, its not overly wet but definitely not dry either. I still prefer the iroshizuku inks on the whole, but this ink definitely hits the right notes for the color I was looking for, and the shading is more than adequate (just in my very brief experience it looks like there are more light portions of each stroke than I generally got with the iroshizuku).

 

Hi, I was wondering how you're getting on with this ink? (ancient thread I know , but one of few).

[Karmachanic]

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[Yhudson]

Yeah, I was hail marying it! Thanks for the courtesy though