Video Review: Wing Sung 601

[alanlight]

[k3eax]

He calls the 601 a "rip-off"! Oh' please, that's a bit harsh.

[alanlight]

Well... it is for all intents and purposes a copy of a Parker 51... so that could be considered a rip-off.

[IndigoBOB]

But they're not even making the p51 anymore. Yes it's a knock off/inspired, but of a discontinued model, so I could care less.

 

Wing Sung's been making some pretty good stuff lately, and I have a clear 618 on the way.

 

The knock off's may not be liked, but I will say that the knock off chinese pens I've purchased have lead me to purchase the real pen the knock off.

I bought the TWSBI 580 because I liked the WS 3008.

 

I bought Lamy pens because of the Jinhao 599.

 

Even the competely different Wing Sung 698 inspired me to purchase the TWSBI Eco.

[k3eax]

Please be aware that I am constraining myself to in order to follow the FPN's tradition of low-key and gentlemanly responses to absurd contentions made by the occasional newcomer.

 

I find alanlight's reference to the 601 as being a ripoff to be beyond simply harsh, it's absurd. I've had enough of that type of that prissy and self-righteous spewing forth of nonsense!

Edited March 25, 2018 by k3eax

[alanlight]

Did you actually watch the review?

 

It was overwhelmingly positive.

 

A "rip-off" as in a "copy" is a quite accurate description in this case, as there is no denying that's what it is.

[k3eax]

Alanright, rip off implies theft for financial or material gain. I would have had no problems had you used expressions like "inspired by","homage", or "shared design features". But your use of rip off, intoned with more than a slight note of disgust, was highly objectionable.

[alanlight]

Where I'm from, "ripoff" can simply mean "copy" without any implication of theft.

For example, this TV show:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0237123/?ref_=nv_sr_1

has often been described as a "ripoff" of "Friends," but nobody is implying any theft is involved...and many people think this is actually a better show.

[k3eax]

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rip--off

 

Enough said?

[alanlight]

I'll direct your attention to the 3rd definition in the link you posted:

 

"a copy or imitation."

So yes, "enough said."

[IndigoBOB]

It wasn't harsh at all. He stated it delicately saying something like, "one may say this is a rip-off", which is synonymous with copy, knock-off, "inspired" in the context he is describing it.

 

I understand exactly that less common use of the word Rip-off he is using it

 

It is a knock-off, that's for sure, but adapted. I'd call the Hero 616 a rip-off of the Parker 51 lol

 

I think you guys are taking it too harshly and reacting disproportionately. There's no need to attack him for you misinterpretation.

 

Besides: The review was a good review Alanlight

[bobje]

Alan, what I really like about this video review is that you cover the pen comprehensively in seven minutes. That takes planning and outlining of discussion points before you begin the video production process, and you’ve done it impressively here. You also raise an interesting point about how vintage designs can be updated and improved in this era. This model offers maintenance simplifications, and other Chinese remakes offer larger sizes with similar proportions, as well as refinements in filling knobs and locks.

[alanlight]

Thanks, I'm trying to improve with each video. Any suggestions for topics or content are welcome.

[TSherbs]

Alan, what I really like about this video review is that you cover the pen comprehensively in seven minutes. That takes planning and outlining of discussion points before you begin the video production process, and you’ve done it impressively here. You also raise an interesting point about how vintage designs can be updated and improved in this era. This model offers maintenance simplifications, and other Chinese remakes offer larger sizes with similar proportions, as well as refinements in filling knobs and locks.

 

agree

[TSherbs]

Please be aware that I am constraining myself to in order to follow the FPN's tradition of low-key and gentlemanly responses to absurd contentions made by the occasional newcomer.

 

I find alanlight's reference to the 601 as being a ripoff to be beyond simply harsh, it's absurd. I've had enough of that type of that prissy and self-righteous spewing forth of nonsense!

 

dude, calm down

 

I am a full suporter of clones, and I had no problem at all with the OP's language. "Some people" do call them 'ripoffs," even in the pejorative sense. I don't, and alanlight didn't. As for this example of your being "gentlemanly" and "constrained," should we look those terms up in the dictionary, too? j/k, I am really not interested in that kind of debate at all.

Edited March 25, 2018 by TSherbs

[TSherbs]

alanlight, do you always write with the pen in such a vertical position? The pen at times seemed to struggle with that high angle a bit. Especially with the dryish Autumn Oak.

[alanlight]

alanlight, do you always write with the pen in such a vertical position? The pen at times seemed to struggle with that high angle a bit. Especially with the dryish Autumn Oak.

 

Short answer: Basically yes, I never thought about it being a particularly high angle, but now that you mention it, it might just be....

 

Longer answer: I sort of went out of my way to shoot these in as natural a writing posture as possible. I didn't want to have to reach around a camera, etc. So the camera is directly above the writing surface attached to a horizontal mount supported by a tripod on the other side of the table (I flip the image over in post-production).

Edited March 25, 2018 by alanlight

[katerchen]

Thank you for the review. I actually have one on order, in no small part due to the overwhelmingly positive feedback here on FPN.

 

Would you say that the filler is thread and gauge compatible with the Vac ? Or the nib and feed for that matter. I'm wondering if these could serve as an aftermarket parts source for a Vac P51 ...

 

-k

[Tasmith]

Thank you for the review. I have a couple of Wing Sung 698s and absolutely love them. The 601 may be in my future.

[alanlight]

I obviously haven't tried it, but I doubt it.

 

On the 51 the blind cap has female threads which attach to male threads on the filler. On the 601 the blind cap has male threads which attach to female threads on the inside of the barrel. If you could somehow replace the 51's filler with one from a 601, the 51's blind cap would have nothing to screw onto.