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Finally my new Lamy 2000 came back from being serviced and I inked it with some Lamy Blue ink. I love the way this pen feels, but it's quite wet considering that it's got an EF nib and that the Lamy Blue is a relatively dry ink. So... is there a nice (not too expensive) drier ink I could try in it to compensate a bit? I'm open to any sober shade other than pitch black and purple, including blue, green, and brown.

 

Soon I'm going to pick up some Noodler's 54th Massachusetts for my Lamy Safari, but from what I read it is a fairly wet ink so I guess it wouldn't fit the bill. I've also got a bottle of Diamine Ancient Copper, but I haven't yet tried it in the 2000.

 

P.S.: I am aware of this old similar topic, but it was too generic to really answer my question.

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Ancient Copper is pretty dry in my pens. So is Noodler’s Whaleman’s Sepia

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I have Montblanc Toffee Brown (not exactly cheap but not over the top expensive like some of those high-end Sailor inks) in my Lamy 2000 Extra Fine now and it writes a nice smooth thin line.

 

I've tried R&K Scabiosa in it and it was too dry even for me (and I like feedback). Probably not what you want since it is purple though. Maybe Salix?

 

I haven't plugged Diamine Registrar's Blue Black it it but that's just a matter of when since it's one of my favorite inks.

 

My bottle of 54th Mass turned blue on me, like the black has slowly eaten away so I haven't been using that in a long time.

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Inked: Aurora Optima EF (Pelikan Tanzanite); Franklin Christoph Pocket 20 Needlepoint (Sailor Kiwa Guro); Sheaffers PFM I Reporter/Fine (Diamine Oxblood); Franklin Christoph 02 Medium Stub (Aurora Black); Platinum Plaisir Gunmetal EF (Platinum Brown); Platinum Preppy M (Platinum Blue-Black). Leaded: Palomino Blackwing 602; Lamy Scribble 0.7 (Pentel Ain Stein 2B); Uni Kuru Toga Roulette 0.5 (Uni Kuru Toga HB); Parker 51 Plum 0.9 (Pilot Neox HB)

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Try Pelikan 4001 inks, particularly blue-black. I hear they're very inexpensive in your side of the pond.

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Pelikan 4001 ink is very dry in my EF Lamy 2000. Violet, black, green and blue black have all been dry enough.

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Many of the Robert Oster inks are dry. I have a wet pen in which I use Robert Oster Purple Rock, which has "Purple" in its name but looks dark gray in most situations--certainly in a wet pen.

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Agree on the Robert Oster inks. I know Astorquiza Rot is certainly pretty dry. Another vote for Pelikan 4001 Blue Black as well. I have Diamine Teal in my Pelikan M200 Cognac (F) and it seems slightly to the dry side. Shades nicely too.

Brad

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Herbin Cafe des Iles (it is a paste), Diamine Autumn Oak, Damson, Grey, Classic Green, Rohrer&Klingner Sepia, Scabiosa (if you don't mind), Iroshizuku Shin Kai, Pilot Blue, Sailor Jentle Tokiwa Matsu. And, actually, Waterman Serenity Blue.

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Pelikan 4001 Violet works very well in my 2000. As you commented originally, I found the pen too wet even in EF, and the Pelikan ink made me much more satisfied with the pen.

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I tried Diamine Ancient Copper in my Lamy 2000 and it was still very gushy. It laid down a tall, thick, brown line on my Leuchtturm1917 notebook that took the good part of a minute to dry. I also tried it on a variety of other, cheaper paper and it was consistently very thick and dark, and often bled through. Although my only comparison are a Lamy Safari and a Pelikan M150, which are both pretty dry.

 

Based on your suggestions I ordered a few ink samples. Hopefully I will find some that suit my needs and a couple of keepers, at least for my other pens... Anyway, here's the lot:

 

Diamine

  • Teal
  • Sherwood Green

Noodler's

  • 54th Massachussetts
  • Prime of the Commons
  • Q'Eternity
  • Walnut

Robert Oster

  • Bronze
  • Deep Sea
  • Fire & Ice

Pelikan

  • 4001 Blue-Black
  • Edelstein Smoky Quartz

Sailor

  • Jentle Yam-Dori (teal)
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Kyo-Noto and Kyo_Iro inks are pretty dry - one of the present limited editions, Hisoku, can make a mildly wet pen a sudden hard starter (which is a real shame).

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I've found that Nooddler's 54th Massachusetts works best in my L2K EF. In fact, it is just perfect — neither too wet nor too dry. 54M tends to dry out on most of my pens, but the Lamy hooded nib keeps the ink from drying and it is ready anytime I uncap the Pen.

Favorite pen/ink pairings: Pilot Custom 823 F with Noodler's El Lawrence, TWSBI 580 AL F with Noodler's Baltimore Canyon Blue, TWSBI 580 F with Noodler's Bad Blue Heron, Pilot Custom Heritage 92 F with Noodler's Lexington Gray, TWSBI Mini F with Noodler's Black diluted 1 part distilled water to 4 parts ink.

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Inopiz, please continue with your investigation and also our enlightenment into the world of drier inks. I never was interested in dry inks until I started learning to properly write mandarin. Once I realized detail was important, I started to sort out drier inks. I have found some on your list as well as the list of the recommendations by others consistent with my observations, such as the Pelikan 4001 inks.

 

Through my initial search I thought I had chanced upon a nice dry ink in the form of Franklin Christoph's Urushi red that I bought about 1 year ago. I was using the ink and really enjoyed both it's brick red shade and it's ability to tame wet gushing pens, until I ran low and ordered a couple more bottles recently. Only to find in dismay what I got was an ink that's a completely different color that was much brighter, and quite a lot wetter. I am sad...

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Kyo-Noto and Kyo_Iro inks are pretty dry - one of the present limited editions, Hisoku, can make a mildly wet pen a sudden hard starter (which is a real shame).

 

I understand that some of the TAG Kyoto inks are dry, but Soft Snow of Ohara (my favorite ink) is on the wet side. In fact, it is too wet to use in some of my pens.

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I understand that some of the TAG Kyoto inks are dry, but Soft Snow of Ohara (my favorite ink) is on the wet side. In fact, it is too wet to use in some of my pens.

It is ? - I also have it in several pens including a Graf von Faber Castell - I find GvFC pens to be wet and the combination gives a decent quantity of ink.

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It is ? - I also have it in several pens including a Graf von Faber Castell - I find GvFC pens to be wet and the combination gives a decent quantity of ink.

 

My slow writing speed is probably a factor.

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The quality of "dryness" in an ink is very elusive. I wish there were a way to quantify or describe it so that we can understand it better. I tend to find that inks that are very unsaturated also dry. Unsaturated inks tend to not have strong vivid colors and shade very easily. These have been the attributes of some of what I would consider dry inks.

 

After reading through these comments last night, I went home and tried 2 different inks I had on hand. I am currently living out of a suitcase so don't have access to my ultimate dry ink which is the Pelikan 4001 Blueblack, the one we can't get in the US.

 

After my initial disappointment with the new batch of Franklin Christoph Urushi Red, which transformed a couple wetter fines that's really closer to medium fines into just gushing medium broads, I washed these pens out and filled them with the Kyonooto Aonibi, which I suspect is a drier ink The pens are now writing with controllable medium fines.

 

Recently the Korean ink company Colorverse introduced surface tension as a criteria in their inks. I hope this will be an introduction to a better way for us to talk about the dry-ness of inks.

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