White Trim Watermans In Celluloid: An Inventory

[Penchantment]

 

Hello Xof72000, Thanks for that information. Guess we can't halt the presses now I believe the one noted as "2 Lady Size" is named in error. It may have been a name that was designated until the reference to model was eventually found elsewhere. It's a Made in Canada or England Lady Patricia which had a #2 nib. Different cap bands than U.S model which I think has caused confusion.

Dave

 

I'm not sure what the proper number for the pen marked '2 Lady Size' should be, but I don't think it's a Canadian/English Lady Pat. It has all the features of a 40s pen while it's my understanding that the Lady Pats were phased out in the 30s. I'm familiar with the atypical Canadian Lady Pat models in celluloid, but all the ones I've seen are identical to the American Lady Pat Ink-Vues aside from having opaque, one-piece barrels with one-piece levers located in the center. Neither the trim configuration nor the proportions of "2 Lady Size" seems to correspond to one of these pens. Needless to say, if you've seen a catalogue featuring this pen labeled as a Lady Patricia, please do share

Edited March 20, 2019 by Estragon

[Penchantment]

In the year and a half since my original post, I've managed to add a handful of significant additions to the inventory, including a couple of curious pens that have frustrated my best efforts to identify them. High time for an update then

 

In the last photo, you'll find the common 1930s British model that is often confused with a 3/32 but differs in proportions, imprint, and lacks a number stamp. Next to it is a similar pen (but bandless) in an interesting translucent/green marble plastic. I've posted this latter pen before and the consensus appears to be that this scarce model was made to appeal to British fashion of the time (Swan, Mentmore, et al. made pens in this period with identical plastics). If anyone can offer any additional insight into any of the unidentified models in the last photo, please chime in!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 20, 2019 by Estragon

[Lam1]

While trying to identify the color of a 32 that I have, I came across this great thread. So, I'm reviving it to show an example of a 32 Green Bronze. Here are some horrible pics (the color is lighter than the poorly lit photos show).

 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2019 by Lam1

[Addertooth]

Hopefully, you will be able to stir Estragon from his slumber. I have been trying to reach him.

[Penchantment]

Stirred!

 

That green and bronze 32 is a very nice example. Of the 8 or so I've seen of these, all but a couple were missing their clips for some reason. Looks like yours was re-riveted at some point(?) It seems Waterman dithered between calling this model a 92 or a 32, as I've seen both end stamps on pens that were otherwise identical.

 

To add to the thread, I acquired this nurse's set couple months back courtesy of Peyton Street Pens:

 

 

Almost makes up for the Canadian 100 yr style Nurse's set that was lost by the USPS on its way to me a year ago. Still looking for that'n :/

 

edit: similar to this set (but with NPT) -->

 

Edited October 1, 2019 by Estragon

[Addertooth]

Estragon,

 

Check out your PMs. You were trying to sell an item which I wish to get.

 

Addertooth

[Lam1]

Stirred!

 

That green and bronze 32 is a very nice example. Of the 8 or so I've seen of these, all but a couple were missing their clips for some reason. Looks like yours was re-riveted at some point(?) It seems Waterman dithered between calling this model a 92 or a 32, as I've seen both end stamps on pens that were otherwise identical.

 

 

I wouldn't know if my 32 was re-riveted... I don't know enough of Watermans to be able to tell. I actually lucked out to get this 32: it was in a lot and from the photos it seemed black (it was completely covered in black ink).

 

As you mention, mine is identical to the 92's. i only know it is a 32 due to the stamp on the end.

 

That nurse set is gorgeous. Congrats.