Montblanc Ultra Black

[rudyhou]

between the three, i think permanent black seems closer to a true black.

[BlazeOrangeGuy]

Thank you so much for your excellent review. I love black inks and I've tried each of these, in one way or another, over the years. I know you put hours into that review! Thank you for your time and contribution.

[amberleadavis]

Mike, I received my bottle today. I like it. Thank you for the wonderful review.

[lapis]

Amber, thanks for the thanks but let me take advantage of this occasion to again point out that I never did understand why a world-based company like Montblanc is so untimley in their distribution. You got your bottle today (which I imagine you didn't order yesterday) and that is two months later than my purchase here. William Shakespeare has been around for two months too, all over the world but still not here in Germany for folks who didn't order the pen along with it.

[massoh]

thanks for the great detailed review

[amberleadavis]

Mike, I agree.

[ethernautrix]

What a fantastic and very useful review! I especially appreciate the comparisons -- and I'm surprised that Noodler's Old Manhattan Black and Sailor Kiwa-guro aren't blacker.

 

As for what I consider the blackest Noodler's inks, OMB and HOD, I'm surprised that OMB doesn't look as black as HOD. Several years ago, I had both - and both were black as black as could be, but HOD feathered, so I stuck with OMB. Actually, I started using regular Noodler's Black, cos it was and continues to be the least problematic of any black ink I've used (especially vis-a-vis feathering). And then I started "boosting" Black with drops of OMB, which makes Black blacker and still no problems.

 

The Mb Permanent Black has now caught my eye, thank you. Will have to check out the reviews. I tried the cartridges a year or so ago and was very disappointed. I don't even remember why -- wasn't permanent, probably. Maybe I didn't wait long enough for the ink to meld with the paper.

 

Thanks for the in-depth review!

[Tintentod]

Just what i needed a review of black inks - Thanks

[lapis]

Due to current interest in a matte black and a recommendation to use De Atramentis document inks, I just thought that might stir up my attention to add a few more comparisons here in this review. The paper is -- as in the review -- Rhodia 80g/m² = 21.3 lb.

 

From top to bottom: De Atramentis Document Ink Black, De Atramentis Archive Ink, De Atramentis Graphite Black, Raduga Black, R & K dokumentus Black, and Super5 Darmstadt.

 

First off, I don't find any De A inks as black as those 12 already shown up at the beginning of this thread. Out of the three I find that only the Archive Ink (Archivtinte) ends up in the bin. The other two are IMO too grey. That also applies to the two from Rohrer & Klingner. (In general, the 6 dokumentus inks form a series within the R & K company, and the 6 Super5 inks are manufactured by R & K but for another company). FWIW, those two R & K blacks are very wet. Raduga's Black is rather blue.

[888007888]

Thank you Lapis

[BT_Summers]

That is a useful revew, shows the variety of shades including traces of blue and grey, also that the nib you are using makes a big difference.

[MarkHanks]

 

 

 

Very insightful review. Thank you.

 

 

 

So, is it safe to assume that

the blacket possible black

that doesn't lose much of its

blackness over time and water

for documentation safety is:

Montblanc Permanent Black?

 

 

[Honeybadgers]

It's a black ink. Black ink should just behave. There should be no such thing as an expensive black ink.

 

Give me noodlers heart of darkness or dark matter any day.

[amberleadavis]

LOL

 

Black ink is rarely black. My beloved Skrip black is purple when diluted and I have found that when I use black I want really really deep black and Ultra Black wasn't it.