Best Way To Lubricate Diamine Registrar's?

[Flaxmoore]

I love DR, but it's simply too dry for my Pilot Metro. Would adding a tiny amount of glycerin to a cartridge full be the right way to get it flowing better? My Lamy Al-Star likes the stuff, but the Metro is my daily driver.

[OCArt]

I've put a couple of drops of Photo-Flo into the bottle of ink to make it a little wetter. Don't overdue or you'll risk greatly increasing feathering.

[lapis]

Use a drop of ordinary dishwater soap/detergent (for the whole bottle). Better yet, start off very small with only a toothpick tip touch of it.

A much more elegant and expensive way would be to buy as a replacement a bottle of Akkerman's #10 (IJzer-Galnoten bl/zw) which IMO and other members' here is "practically" the same ink but with some additive(s) namely surfactants/tensides/detergents to increase wetness. That ink has, at least for me, replaced DR.

 

Mike

[Tas]

Use a drop of ordinary dishwater soap/detergent (for the whole bottle). Better yet, start off very small with only a toothpick tip touch of it.

A much more elegant and expensive way would be to buy as a replacement a bottle of Akkerman's #10 (IJzer-Galnoten bl/zw) which IMO and other members' here is "practically" the same ink but with some additive(s) namely surfactants/tensides/detergents to increase wetness. That ink has, at least for me, replaced DR.

 

Mike

 

Yes, this !

[lapis]

What? The toothpick or the Akkerman??

 

Just curious

[the_gasman]

I've put a couple of drops of Photo-Flo into the bottle of ink to make it a little wetter. Don't overdue or you'll risk greatly increasing feathering.

+1

[Tas]

What? The toothpick or the Akkerman??

 

Just curious

 

The Akkerman.

 

I've never played with dish soap and glycerin only once (yuk).

 

Photo Flo helped fix Noodler's 54th. Whilst it solved the clogging issue I admitted to myself that no ink is worth all that faffing about. If it doesn't behave nowadays it gets given away or sent to the "Lemon Jif" bottle (More about that another time but I recently poured all, ALL of my "not quite happy with" mixes into a large, empty Lemon Jif bottle. The result a whopping 250mls of A STUNNING blue black !)

[Flaxmoore]

The Akkerman.

 

I've never played with dish soap and glycerin only once (yuk).

 

Photo Flo helped fix Noodler's 54th. Whilst it solved the clogging issue I admitted to myself that no ink is worth all that faffing about. If it doesn't behave nowadays it gets given away or sent to the "Lemon Jif" bottle (More about that another time but I recently poured all, ALL of my "not quite happy with" mixes into a large, empty Lemon Jif bottle. The result a whopping 250mls of A STUNNING blue black !)

 

I'm hoping Jif is a soap brand or something in the UK. Here it's a brand of peanut butter.

[Piper 987]

but I recently poured all, ALL of my "not quite happy with" mixes into a large, empty Lemon Jif bottle.

 

Lemon Jif peanut butter...yummmm

[carlos.q]

Lemon Jif peanut butter...yummmm

Now THAT I would buy!

[Noihvo]

I'm guessing that Photo-Flo doesn't have some magical proprietary component that does the wetting job. What is the wetting agent in Photo-Flo? I mean, so I can get the same effect from something else over here, that I don't need to import it from the Anglo-Saxon world.

[lgsoltek]

I'm guessing that Photo-Flo doesn't have some magical proprietary component that does the wetting job. What is the wetting agent in Photo-Flo? I mean, so I can get the same effect from something else over here, that I don't need to import it from the Anglo-Saxon world.

 

 

It acts as a surfactant. You can use dish soap to achieve the same effect.

[randomist]

I'm hoping Jif is a soap brand or something in the UK. Here it's a brand of peanut butter.

It used to be, but no more. I can only assume peanut butter was intended

 

 

 

*Jif used to be a cleaning product brand here, the brand was changed to Cif for some reason, I heard it was because too many foreign accents had trouble pronouncing Jif.

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

We have an Inky TOD Improving Ink Flow https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/268124-inky-t-o-d-improving-ink-flow-make-a-dry-writing-ink-wetter-or-help-ignition-problems/?p=3016908

 

Another approach is to blend a bit of a [Western] wet / high lubricity simple aniline dye ink into the DR. Depending on how one goes about things, the appearance of the ink might change slightly, though DR is so dark that is likely to overwhelm the adjunct; and there could be a loss of water resistance in that the adjunct ink might wash away.

(Should you choose to sail those inky seas, I ran a set of trials blending dilute Ecclesiastical Stationery Supplies Registrars Ink with several inks, which might serve as some sort of navigational aid. https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/223337-essri-mixes/?p=2219295)

 

Bye,

S1

Edited April 24, 2016 by Sandy1

[aeba]

I'm guessing that Photo-Flo doesn't have some magical proprietary component that does the wetting job. What is the wetting agent in Photo-Flo? I mean, so I can get the same effect from something else over here, that I don't need to import it from the Anglo-Saxon world.

More serious camera shops should be selling Kodak Photo-flo or something similiar from another brand. However, like mentioned, dish soap works too.

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

Member Oldane reported problems when using washing-up liquid to increase the flow of iron-gall ink, but found that the use of Photo-Flo was OK. @ Post № 20 https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/199472-in-praise-of-dish-soap/?p=3188341

 

Bye,

S1

Edited April 25, 2016 by Sandy1

[Flaxmoore]

More serious camera shops should be selling Kodak Photo-flo or something similiar from another brand. However, like mentioned, dish soap works too.

I'd be more interested in a good camera shop than a pen shop at this point. I'm a diehard film guy, use an old Canon AE1 that's older than I am, and love the feel of good Kodak ISO 800 or Kodak Triple-X for black and white. Taken probably ten thousand with that old rig, still love it.

[aeba]

I'd be more interested in a good camera shop than a pen shop at this point. I'm a diehard film guy, use an old Canon AE1 that's older than I am, and love the feel of good Kodak ISO 800 or Kodak Triple-X for black and white. Taken probably ten thousand with that old rig, still love it.

 

Busted. I wouldn't know in what part of photographic processing to use Photo-flo; just that it has something to do with the process. I don't even have a camera, except if one counts a year 2003 Hewlett Packard digital one as a "camera". (3 megapixels, feel the power!).

 

I am old enough to remember taking some *bleep* pictures on a film camera. That was... 26-ish years ago. But I don't remember whether that was Turkey or Cyprus. I'll go feel nostalgic that way ->

[AAAndrew]

But Diamine Registrar is my favorite ink for dip pens. I get it in the big bottles from Chesterfield. I really only use that and walnut ink. It's perfect consistency for dip pens. It was a little dry in my Parker Vector, but perfect for my Esterbrooks and Spencerian and Eagle and Hunt and ...

 

I'd like more info about how to reduce the "wetness" of some fountain pen inks. Diluting them can help, adding water makes them "drier." (world is a crazy place at times) Is there another method if diluting doesn't help?

[katerchen]

too many foreign accents had trouble pronouncing Jif.

 

It's easy. Same pronunciation as the image file format.

 

-K

 

*whistle*

and my job is done here