Pilot Custom Maple: A Wooden 742?

[butangmucat]

I used to have a Custom Maple and like the feel of its soft nib. However I lost it and I don't want to get another one partially because of the wooden finish (not lacquered). I remember the pen uses a #10 14k nib so I am wondering if it is based on the custom 742? And how soft is a 742 with soft fine nib (on par with a Falcon?)

 

Sincerely

[Algester]

no its more like based on the 845 than the 742

oops correction I was looking at the Isshin...

yes the Maple is based on the 742 which has a lot of nib selection including the falcon nib and by which falcon are you talking about Falcon nib FA? or the Elabo soft nibs?

Edited March 22, 2016 by Algester

[butangmucat]

no its more like based on the 845 than the 742

oops correction I was looking at the Isshin...

yes the Maple is based on the 742 which has a lot of nib selection including the falcon nib and by which falcon are you talking about Falcon nib FA? or the Elabo soft nibs?

Sorry, I meant Metal Falcon/Elabo vs 742 SF. I don't believe I can handle a FA nib properly.

[Algester]

Sorry, I meant Metal Falcon/Elabo vs 742 SF. I don't believe I can handle a FA nib properly.

considering the soft nib selection on it's smaller cousin the 74 I would say equally springy but I just like how the normal nib looks like this is basing on my experience on it's flat top counter part the 91 with a soft medium nib

while I have man handled the FA nib but only for a short while that's more springier than the soft nibs but I will soon have my 912 with an FA nib soon

Edited March 22, 2016 by Algester

[butangmucat]

Sorry, I meant Metal Falcon/Elabo vs 742 SF. I don't believe I can handle a FA nib properly.

In the original collection I had lost, I had a CH91 SFM, a resin Falcon, and a Custom Kanade. I admire the volume of CON-70 used on CH91 SFM and Kanade, but also liked the nib of the resin Falcon. I try to consolidate these three pens into one when I am rebuilding my collection now so I can leave funds and space to other pens (i.e. a second VP, probably a Decimo or Fermo). So I am wondering if getting a Metal Falcon or a Custom 742 with SF nib will do the job for me. Thank you for the input.

[butangmucat]

considering the soft nib selection on it's smaller cousin the 74 I would say equally springy but I just like how the normal nib looks like this is basing on my experience on it's flat top counter part the 91 with a soft medium nib

while I have man handled the FA nib but only for a short while that's more springier than the soft nibs but I will soon have my 912 with an FA nib soon

So what I can get out of a 742 SF will be similar to a Metal Falcon in flex? Just to make sure.

[vnnil]

I own the three pens.

 

In my opinion, there's more to it than plain softness. The Kaede is not as soft as the 742 SF, but softer than a #10 fine nib. Also, there are subtle differences in the nib's design. I believe Rokurinpapa talked about it in his review of the pen.

 

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The 742's SF CAN be pushed to be similar to the falcon, however, I don't think it is intended to flex as frequently as the Falcon, which purpose is to imitate a brush. For me, the custom series' Soft nibs are all about the delightful feel, with some occasional flair.

 

In brief: if you want softness, and definite flex capability, go with the Falcon.

[butangmucat]

I own the three pens.

 

In my opinion, there's more to it than plain softness. The Kaede is not as soft as the 742 SF, but softer than a #10 fine nib. Also, there are subtle differences in the nib's design. I believe Rokurinpapa talked about it in his review of the pen.

 

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The 742's SF CAN be pushed to be similar to the falcon, however, I don't think it is intended to flex as frequently as the Falcon, which purpose is to imitate a brush. For me, the custom series' Soft nibs are all about the delightful feel, with some occasional flair.

 

In brief: if you want softness, and definite flex capability, go with the Falcon.

So what I want is a pen that has a rather soft feel on everyday writing, and being able to flex whenever I want. It also needs to have a large ink capacity. Sounds like that the Metal Falcon is my best choice?

[Algester]

if thts the case you might have to go with the Elabo... but beyond that I'm not sure as I dont stress write my soft nibs cause... really we maybe have Pilot brands here in the PH but its hard to say what can be covered by warranty if you don't carry FPs no?

[butangmucat]

if thts the case you might have to go with the Elabo... but beyond that I'm not sure as I dont stress write my soft nibs cause... really we maybe have Pilot brands here in the PH but its hard to say what can be covered by warranty if you don't carry FPs no?

I don't flex crazy but I want to be able to push some into the nib when I want. I don't think I can control a FA nib so maybe the Elabo nib is still my best choice?

 

I don't really need a full flex nib for I am not practicing copperplate in the foreseeable future. But I do like the softness and flex of an Elabo nib. I don't know which one will be a better choice, 742 SF, Elabo, or 742 FA?

Edited March 23, 2016 by butangmucat

[Algester]

logical choice goes to the Elabo being 2K yen cheaper... but thats the resin version

metal version is 5K yen more expensive than the 742...

if that's the case I would go for the 742 out of shear cheapness

however I'm still convinced your going to make the choice in the end so just think about your budget on what ever feels "normal" for you

Edited March 23, 2016 by Algester

[vnnil]

At this point it all comes down to personal preference: shorter or #10 nib, rhodium/gold (don't forget the Custom 912), metal/resin, flat ends/torpedo...

You can't go wrong with either. Just pick whatever feels better.