Is This A Parker Knock Off?

[bjovel]

Hi

 

I'm new to this forum but I have been a user of fountainpens for about a year now. I'm from Sweden and I sometimes buy pens from Ebay.

The other day I bought a pen that from the bad pictures the seller put up looked like some kind of Parker pen.

When I got it today I saw that there wasn't any kind of branding on it and the arrow clip to me looks a bit odd. I have done some searching to see if I could find out what kind of pen it is.

But I have had no luck.

Is there anyone here that can help me find out what brand it might be? Its a goog pen and it started right up when i filled it up so in any case I have a pen to add to my, as of yet, small collection.

 

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[bjovel]

I was able to unscrew the gripsection and on the nib it says:

 

Wing flow

1

U S A

 

Is there anywone who has any insight to what kind of pen this is?

[grainweevil]

For some reason I seem to have acquired two of these, or very similar; a "Cadillac" with a Waterman-esque cap and German nib, and a "G.A.P Self Filling". No idea of the country of origin, never mind the manufacturer I'm afraid. Not a high quality pen, it's true, but as you say, they do just work.

 

Oh, and welcome to the forum!

[bjovel]

Thanks.

 

Then it was as i suspected. A noname pen. But I must say that i love the way it writes and it holds an decent amount of ink. So for the 4 or 5$ I paid for it I'm quiet happy anyway.

[sandy101]

Maybe this will help

 

http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/profiles/wing_flow.htm

[catbert]

I have c.1950s-60s Italian school-type pens with similar features and styling - hooded nib, inlaid section, syringe filler.

[KellyMcJ]

Maybe this will help

 

http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/profiles/wing_flow.htm

Why does every single Richards pens link redirect to the home page? Does anyone else have this problem?

[catbert]

Why does every single Richards pens link redirect to the home page? Does anyone else have this problem?

 

 

Only if I try to follow the link on my mobile.

[tryphon]

This is an Italian school pen from the 1960s, made in the town of Settimo near Turin. Many small pen manufacturers made school pens, often using common components. The cap of yours is probably not the original cap. I have many similar pens in my collection. They are chap pens that were sold for about 1,200 Liras in the Italian equivalent of dime stores. An Aurora 88 would cost as much as ten of these pens. The Wingflow nibs were very cheap nibs, US-made that were sold to the Settimo pen makers by a distributor located in Switzerland.

They were sold under many brand names: Wilson, Universal, LUS, Forever, Toujours and many, many more.

 

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Edited January 18, 2016 by tryphon

[tryphon]

One more:

 

http://s26.postimg.org/qcrw34g9l/Jonnah5.jpg

[tryphon]

Maybe this will help

 

http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/profiles/wing_flow.htm

By the 1960s little was left of the original wingflow nibs quality: they were cheap steel nibs, with no iridium pellet, just folded tines. Many Italian makers of low cost school pens used these cheap nibs, sold to Italy by a Swiss distributor.

[bjovel]

Thanks tryphon!

It's nice to know that there are ssome known history of a pen like this. As I wrote earlier I'm happy that I bought the pen because its a good writer and it looks good. And that it is a school pen makes it perfekt as I'm going to the university today to get one step closer to become a vocational teacher.

I had some trobule choosing witch pen to bring, but now thats an obvious choice.

[peterg]

They were also popular in the UK as more modern alternative to the ubiquitous Platignum school pen, but without the inlaid section.

 

A lot were sold by the Unique Pen Company who later set up an Italian subsidiary (but I don't think they made fountain pens), but I would be interested to know if there was an Italian manufacturer called Pascalis (spelling may vary)

[bugsydog55]

Looks like you are off to a great start with a somewhat unique pen. I like that "not quite ordinary" look and the fact that it writes is a real bonus. And a big welcome to where you can spend all your free time!

[Bo Bo Olson]

Popular pens get clones.....P-51 was cloned all over Europe and so much in Italy the troops going home had them confiscated.

The Sheaffer new balance got cloned too the 146/9.