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Emerald Of Chivor - J. Herbin


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I just ordered this ink so I hope it doesn't smear as I am a lefty. It should be OK if it dries quickly enough.

Let us know how it works for you lefties.

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Thanks again Visva

 

 

You know I love Herbin ink... Love this ink to judging from your 'excellent as usual' review.

 

Still not convinced if these sparkling inks are the best for Fountain Pens..

 

If I schould use them it will be only in my cheaper pens I guess

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I've changed my mind and bought a bottle of Chivor in preparation for Christmas card making. Should be the thing. I'm hoping I can get it to work for dipped pen calligraphy half as well as Rouge Hematite.

 

In any case, I'll have a review up soon after it arrives.

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I love Herbin inks. Rouge Haematite is never out of one of my pens and after seeing the wonderful previews, I rushed out and bought Emerald of Chivor as soon as it was available but I just can't get on with it. It's a very positive emerald colour and the ink itself is very wet. I desperately want to see all the lovely variation (like the RH) and even evidence of sparkliness but all I get is thick, purposeful green. I'm not going to give up just yet though. I'm hoping to find a pen and paper combo that helps me go, "Ooooo!". If not, I'll probably flog it. :(

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Received the Emerald of Chivor. I was trying to fill a Cross convertor and ended with green fingertips. I have used it in a Moleskine notebook. There was some strike through. Very little feathering. The medium tip laid out a bold line that dried quickly. No green stain on the bottom of my left hand. With adequate light I can see the sparkle but no trace of afore mentioned red. The ink needs to be gently shaken to distribute the metal flakes in the ink and then fill your ink pen. This ink adds interest to my long standing practice of journaling. I am ordering ink syringes to refill empty cartridges. And so far the ink flows smoothly with no problems. Expensive but I'm glad I bought it. May seem best for the younger generation but this old man likes it. Sparkle in the ink is cool beans.

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I like the green but the sparkle was a little much for me. Also, I could never get a consistent sparkle (either too little or too much). I may use it for Christmas cards though.

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Doesn't stain or smear on my left hand as I write and thats a big plus for me. (I had some Private Reserve I had to give away.) The metal flakes are just something out of the ordinary.

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I like the green but the sparkle was a little much for me. Also, I could never get a consistent sparkle (either too little or too much). I may use it for Christmas cards though.

My experience, too. The glittery look is not me. I have tried a sample and won't buy a bottle. I don't even like the color all that much; kind of dull except on those brilliant close-up photos that folks post. But the glittery look and inconsistency are deal-breakers for me for such an expensive ink.

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I quite like it for everyday work in Sheaffer Targa. I have it in an S.T. Dupont Montparnasse right now. In normal use the glitter isn't all that pronounced, and the color variation from "sheening" is minimal on normal paper. It's a very wet ink, but performance is excellent, apart from bleedthrough. Of course you need to like the color. I haven't always liked it, and as it happens, it was mainly under circumstances where I was looking for a simple green and found blue-green to be an unacceptable substitute. In this case, however, I knew what I was getting, got what I expected, color-wise, and this range of colors have grown on me, for the most part. I still couldn't stomach Kaweco Paradise Blue, though. Something about that color just rubs me the wrong way.

 

The Diamine Shimmer inks are rather less useful to me. I like Blue Pearl, but my attempt to use Brandy Dazzle in a pocket pen was not a success. I think I will relegate these to home use, so that the pens can be kept horizontal. But the J. Herbin inks haven't worked out badly for me in pocket pens.

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I recently finished a sample of EOC and my mind may be playing tricks on me but my nib feels a little more scratchy than it did before. I hadn't used the pen (M800) for a few weeks prior to using EOC so I may just be remembering wrong but has anyone else noticed something similar? Is it possible that the gold dust scratches the nib?

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I recently finished a sample of EOC and my mind may be playing tricks on me but my nib feels a little more scratchy than it did before. I hadn't used the pen (M800) for a few weeks prior to using EOC so I may just be remembering wrong but has anyone else noticed something similar? Is it possible that the gold dust scratches the nib?

 

First, let's talk about something else. Did you, by any chance, remove the nib to flush the pen more easily? I occasionally do have to realign my Pelikan M800 nibs after reinstalling the nib. It's not one of those big adjustments, rather just part of the ritual. Are your tines in alignment?

 

Moving on to the potential action of the ink, I don't want to say "impossible", but I really don't think it's very likely. I certainly haven't experienced it in any of the pens I've used the ink in. We don't know for certain what they're using, but actual gold dust seems economically unlikely. Perhaps it's mica powder? At any rate, my guess would be that the tipping is much harder on the Mohs scale. Even if it weren't, the particles are fine enough that it would only add a feeling of texture, not of scratchiness. I can take a smooth nib and run it over 3 micron or 5 micron Mylar lapping paper, intentionally scratching the nib. That doesn't make the pen "scratchy".

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First, let's talk about something else. Did you, by any chance, remove the nib to flush the pen more easily? I occasionally do have to realign my Pelikan M800 nibs after reinstalling the nib. It's not one of those big adjustments, rather just part of the ritual. Are your tines in alignment?

 

Moving on to the potential action of the ink, I don't want to say "impossible", but I really don't think it's very likely. I certainly haven't experienced it in any of the pens I've used the ink in. We don't know for certain what they're using, but actual gold dust seems economically unlikely. Perhaps it's mica powder? At any rate, my guess would be that the tipping is much harder on the Mohs scale. Even if it weren't, the particles are fine enough that it would only add a feeling of texture, not of scratchiness. I can take a smooth nib and run it over 3 micron or 5 micron Mylar lapping paper, intentionally scratching the nib. That doesn't make the pen "scratchy".

 

Tines are aligned. I generally remove the nib unit from my M800 when changing inks to clean things out really well but make sure to line things up when I'm done.

 

I may not be using the right term, texture may be more what I'm noticing. The pen I was using before switching back to the M800 is incredibly smooth so it's entirely possible there's no difference and what I'm noticing is just in my mind. I just wanted to throw this comment out there in case others had noticed something similar. If no one else has noticed this then there's probably nothing to worry about.

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I wonder if anyone has had a problem cleaning pens after using this ink? Any advice would be very welcome.

But the colour looks so fabulous, this one looks hard to resist :)

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I wonder if anyone has had a problem cleaning pens after using this ink? Any advice would be very welcome.

But the colour looks so fabulous, this one looks hard to resist :)

 

 

I've only used a sample of the ink (1-2 filings) so I don't have extensive experience but it was as easy to clean as any other ink. I would have purchased a bottle but the glitter was too much for me. The color is amazing though.

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