Waterman Cf Ballpoint Refills - Must De Cartier Fits?

[Slpederson]

I recently obtained a Waterman CF ballpoint along with fountain pen. The ballpoint came without refill and I am having great difficulty locating a refill. Another site suggested that the Must De Cartier ballpoint refills will fit. Anyone have any experience to tell if this is true? Thanks.

[wspohn]

That is correct.

 

Sadly, the refills have a turned out bit at the top that nothing else matches. Make sure if you are buying on line that the refill you are getting looks like this:

 

http://www.paradisepen.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/cartier-must-ball-point-refill-black-medium-point-vxrb0211_3554.jpg

[Slpederson]

Thank you very much. I think you intended to include a photo that I don't see.

[wspohn]

The image is there for me.

 

If you can't see it, right click where it should be and take the url and paste it into a new window to find it.

 

http://www.paradisepen.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/cartier-must-ball-point-refill-black-medium-point-vxrb0211_3554.jpg

[Slpederson]

I've got it now. Thank you. Not sure what the glitch was.

[Matlock]

Cross refills with the plastic section cut off work fine. Just cut with wire cutters so as to flatten the cut section and this will provide the overlap to retain the refill in place. I use these with all my CF ballpoints and they work very well.

[Slpederson]

Thanks. I'll try that. I have plenty of those since all the ballpoint pen kits for wood turning pens use those and I used to make turned pens.

[Slpederson]

Cartier will not sell to you unless you go to one of their boutiques with a Cartier pen in hand. I could not make the Cross refill work. Either the spread was too wide for the "cap" to fit over or the refill wwas too short. But the fine gentleman at pentooling.com is actually working on modifying existing ballpoint refills with the proper turned bit at the end. He's not there yet, and I've offered to lend him my CF ballpoint when he's ready for testing. I'll keep you posted.

[Matlock]

I could not make the Cross refill work. Either the spread was too wide for the "cap" to fit over or the refill was too short.

Sorry you could not get the Cross refill to work, I have them fitted to two CFs and three DGs with no problems. This was raised on a thread some time ago and several people also had no problems. Anyway when pentooling.com come up with the goods there should be no more trouble getting replacements.

[TorPelikan]

I'm using modified Cross refills in my Concorde.

Good for chrome finished model, but the tip was too thick for plastic barrel models.

 

I'm planning to test Cross compatible refills.

[Slpederson]

I finally got a Cross refill to work. The secret seems to be not flattening out the top of the refill too much when crimping, and getting more of the metal pinched into the center. I'm pleased to finally have a CF fountain and ballpoint set that works.

[Matlock]

I finally got a Cross refill to work. The secret seems to be not flattening out the top of the refill too much when crimping, and getting more of the metal pinched into the center. I'm pleased to finally have a CF fountain and ballpoint set that works.

Pleased you got it sorted. It is not so easy to explain without an illustration, sorry about that. Your CF is now set fair until Cross stop making their refills and I think that should be a VERY long time.

[davidc]

http://www.rechargestylo.fr/recharge-bille-compatible-flair-titane-waterman-bleu-p-708.html

Here is a link to a French shop which I believe has these refills in stock - they are called "Titane"

Hope this helps.

[terim]

I see Paradise Pen also carries them ......

[Custom Pen Parts]

These refills which are identical to the original CF, will be available on my website mid May 2016

hope this helps someone with their pen

Roger

[rsansper]

I'm using my Waterman CF with a Cartier M 705 refill. It fits almost perfectly.