What Snorkel Model Should I Get?

[kirchh]

 

Daniel, do you know of any that are MARKED as flexible and have the incised line? I am sure there are some out there that are flexible by chance but not marked as such, but I've not seen one that is marked flexible and has an incised line. Not that I've seen every nib out there.

 

I'll have to check, but as far as I know, there is no such thing as "flexible by chance" with a Sheaffer nib. Sheaffer's manufacturing was not so wildly haphazard that a nib intended to be of a rigid grade would be flexible instead.

 

--Daniel

[kirchh]

I do recall a flexible stub Triumph nib with incised line and the pen was stickered with that nib style.

 

--Daniel

[Happy Harry]

 

As anyone who has actually compared a flexible and a rigid nib of the same type would know, they are shaped very differently.

 

 

Prove it. Pick the flexible nib/s.

 

[kirchh]

Prove it. Pick the flexible nib/s.

 

 

Hugh -

 

You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you, of course:

 

 

Using a 14ct nib as an example the 14ct bit means that the nib contains 58.5% gold by weight, gold being heavy and dense would be less in terms of volume, and as the characteristics of gold remain the same it then becomes clear if you have a flexible nib and an identical rigid nib then it's whats in the other 42.5% of the nib that makes the difference. Making nibs with different characteristics is all about the blend of metals and alloys used hence there is no difference in making the actual nib whether it be flexible or not, triumph or standard.

 

You have provided no evidence whatsoever for your assertion (and your math is wrong). Similarly, you have failed to provide any evidence that Sheaffer rigid 14K Triumph nibs have nickel in the alloy. Furthermore, Sheaffer's Palladium-Silver nib alloy is now well known, and there is no evidence a different alloy was used for flexible PdAg nibs.

 

Your claims all fail for lack of support.

 

--Daniel

[Pincel]

 

Prove it. Pick the flexible nib/s.

 

 

 

You've to turn the pens with the underside faced up. I want to see the feeds and see which ones have wider spaced combs.

Edited April 29, 2015 by BeRa

[Happy Harry]

You fail..your words not mine, all you need to do is back them up.

 

As anyone who has actually compared a flexible and a rigid nib of the same type would know, they are shaped very differently.

 

Might talk the talk but can't walk the walk as the saying goes.

[Happy Harry]

 

You've to turn the pens with the underside faced up. I want to see the feeds and see which ones have wider spaced combs.

 

I couldn't pick the flexible/s without trying them. The point of the exercise as apparently it's easy to do. Anyway good luck, I hope you pick correctly.

[kirchh]

You fail..your words not mine, all you need to do is back them up.

 

 

Might talk the talk but can't walk the walk as the saying goes.

Ah, as I suspected.

 

You made it up.

 

Luckily, no intelligent reader appears to have been taken in by your fabrication. Notice the utter absence of support for your position.

 

--Daniel

Edited April 29, 2015 by kirchh

[jar]

You fail..your words not mine, all you need to do is back them up.

 

 

Might talk the talk but can't walk the walk as the saying goes.

Support, support, support.

[kirchh]

Support, support, support.

 

Don't be shy.

 

Do you agree with Hugh's statement?

 

Using a 14ct nib as an example the 14ct bit means that the nib contains 58.5% gold by weight, gold being heavy and dense would be less in terms of volume, and as the characteristics of gold remain the same it then becomes clear if you have a flexible nib and an identical rigid nib then it's whats in the other 42.5% of the nib that makes the difference. Making nibs with different characteristics is all about the blend of metals and alloys used hence there is no difference in making the actual nib whether it be flexible or not, triumph or standard

 

--Daniel

Edited April 29, 2015 by kirchh

[jar]

 

Don't be shy.

 

Do you agree withHugh's statement?

 

 

--Daniel

It is totally irrelevant whether or not I agree with anything Hugh said as is obvious to anyone capable of reading the post I replied to since it revolves around your claims.

 

You asserted "As anyone who has actually compared a flexible and a rigid nib of the same type would know, they are shaped very differently." and the issue is whether or not you can support that assertion. So far we still wait.

[FredRydr]

 

I have Sheaffer flexible nibs with no incised lines, shallow-V straight incised lines, curved incised lines, in single gold or dual gold and rhodium plate. I've seen one embossed "FLEXIBLE" that wasn't so flexible.

 

By and large, the tines on flexible nibs have been longer than firmer nibs.

 

Fred

[JonSzanto]

Might talk the talk but can't walk the walk as the saying goes.

 

Indeed. I never thought I'd see behavior like this from him, but there it is. He types it in print, and then pretends it doesn't exist.

 

You made it up.

 

FFS. He quoted your own post. You and Lazard 2.0 actually deserve each other.

 

You asserted "As anyone who has actually compared a flexible and a rigid nib of the same type would know, they are shaped very differently." and the issue is whether or not you can support that assertion. So far we still wait.

 

Exactly. I'm certain we'll just deal with more hand-waving and bullschit.

 

Consider this another vote of support. Long live Harry.

[FredRydr]

You guys are silly.

 

Fred

[kirchh]

It is totally irrelevant whether or not I agree with anything Hugh said as is obvious to anyone capable of reading the post I replied to since it revolves around your claims.

 

You asserted "As anyone who has actually compared a flexible and a rigid nib of the same type would know, they are shaped very differently." and the issue is whether or not you can support that assertion. So far we still wait.

 

Thanks for confirming that you don't agree with Hugh's claim.

 

--Daniel

[kirchh]

 

Indeed. I never thought I'd see behavior like this from him, but there it is. He types it in print, and then pretends it doesn't exist.

 

 

FFS. He quoted your own post. You and Lazard 2.0 actually deserve each other.

 

You are having a reading comprehension failure; I can't really take the time to help you with that.

 

As I've stated, Hugh fabricated something and presented it as fact. He is unable to provide any evidence for the claim, which he simply made up.

 

 

Exactly. I'm certain we'll just deal with more hand-waving and bullschit

 

When you have no actual content to contribute, this sort of contentless and obscene utterance results. Disappointing, but not entirely unexpected, considering.

 

Consider this another vote of support. Long live Harry.

 

Don't be shy.

 

Do you agree with Hugh's statement?

 

Using a 14ct nib as an example the 14ct bit means that the nib contains 58.5% gold by weight, gold being heavy and dense would be less in terms of volume, and as the characteristics of gold remain the same it then becomes clear if you have a flexible nib and an identical rigid nib then it's whats in the other 42.5% of the nib that makes the difference. Making nibs with different characteristics is all about the blend of metals and alloys used hence there is no difference in making the actual nib whether it be flexible or not, triumph or standard

 

Jar doesn't, apparently.

 

--Daniel

[jar]

 

Thanks for confirming that you don't agree with Hugh's claim.

 

--Daniel

 

Stop misrepresenting what I post. You do provide laughs though.

[JonSzanto]

Daniel evades once again. No surprise, since his pedantry clouds his own comprehension. I really hope he responds to this, though he may be overcome with vapors and is fanning himself and clutching his pearls.

[kirchh]

 

Stop misrepresenting what I post. You do provide laughs though.

 

You will not support Hugh's claim. That is a fact.

 

--Daniel

[kirchh]

Daniel evades once again. No surprise, since his pedantry clouds his own comprehension. I really hope he responds to this, though he may be overcome with vapors and is fanning himself and clutching his pearls.

 

Ah, so you, too will not support Hugh's claim.

 

--Daniel