Noodler's Apache Sunset

[FrankB]

This is a good review, Hana, thanks.

 

I have a question, but I fear I am lacking the language to ask it properly. In both of your closeups, but especially on the cardboard, the ink seems to have dried with a clearly defined "border" along each stroke. I love that effect. Does the ink really look that way in person?

 

I have found few inks that have that characteristic. For a yellow ink, I have been using J. Herbin "Ambre de Birmanie" (sp?) which is lighter and a little more brown than the "Apache Sunset," I think. - Sheesh, I wish I had a better eye for color! - From my Bexley B nib, it has been giving that "bordered" effect. I will have to give this Noodler's ink a try.

[umenohana]

QUOTE (Jared @ Mar 3 2007, 12:10 AM)

Hana, Please tell us how you learned your style of writing, and more importantly for us, how can we learn to do the same? I enjoy dip nibs, but am discouraged by how scratchy they can be. How does your super needlepoint compare to dip nibs? Thanks, Jared

I learned my style of writing by mimicking the Declaration of Independence, Abraham Lincoln's letters, etc. Once I got the gist of it, I started shaping the letters in a way I liked best.

 

My super needlepoint is significantly smoother than my dip pens, save for the gold iridium tipped Mabie Todd dip pen that I have. She is a smooth writer, too. Of course, some of my non-gold dip pen nibs are more flexible than my Swan FP.

 

-Hana

[umenohana]

QUOTE (FrankB @ Mar 3 2007, 01:24 AM)

This is a good review, Hana, thanks. I have a question, but I fear I am lacking the language to ask it properly. In both of your closeups, but especially on the cardboard, the ink seems to have dried with a clearly defined "border" along each stroke. I love that effect. Does the ink really look that way in person? I have found few inks that have that characteristic. For a yellow ink, I have been using J. Herbin "Ambre de Birmanie" (sp?) which is lighter and a little more brown than the "Apache Sunset," I think. - Sheesh, I wish I had a better eye for color! - From my Bexley B nib, it has been giving that "bordered" effect. I will have to give this Noodler's ink a try.

Yes, the ink looks that way in person for both the regular scan and the cardboard scan. It's really neat, isn't it? It could make one want to write on cardboard more often..

 

-Hana

[FrankB]

Hana wrote:

 

"Yes, the ink looks that way in person for both the regular scan and the cardboard scan. It's really neat, isn't it? It could make one want to write on cardboard more often.."

 

Then I really must try this ink. I love that "bordered" effect.

[wackyjacky1]

Wow, that really is a gorgeous color. I have been stuck in a mindset that says colors like Apache Sunset are impractical and not suitable for everyday use...but I believe I am beginning to rethink that position!

[coco]

Beautiful color--wish I'd read this post before I ordered more inks today I already have Cayenne (one of my favorites) and today ordered PR Shoreline Gold & Copper Burst.

 

Down the road, Apache Sunset, definitely. Great review!

[JDlugosz]

I just got a vial of Apache Sunset via the Ink Exchange, after seeing the beautiful samples on this thread.

 

I made some scans with calibrated color references, as I've been experimenting with. To aid in perception of the color on your screen, I put a thin white border around the page so you can note the paper color, and a gray matte around the image. The gray is perfectly neutral; judge the color relative to that, and you can compare any of my scans side-by-side since they are saved with identical profiles (Adobe RGB).

 

 

I'm thinking that 128 dpi does not show the color well, because a pen stroke is anti-aliased and no pixels are actually that color! The stroke is 0.019 inches, so lines are less than 2½ pixels wide, and usually not on the grid! I chose the resolution to fit a page on what people are comfortable with on their browsers, but perhaps ink reviews should be done on narrower paper with higher resolution, for this reason alone.

 

Here is a close up, to show the shading:

 

 

And here is an extreme close up to look for feathering:

 

[Kakaze]

My god that's beautiful handwriting.

 

I want to get a flex nib so bad so I can do that.

 

I don't understand how there isn't a single company that still makes flexible nibs. There's obviously a market for them, however small—and you can get flexable dip nibs, right? Such a shame.

[JDlugosz]

Update to note the HSB values measured from the scan:

16°, 71%, 81%

 

 

[Bananafish]

The Apache Sunset is very close to Habanero isn't it? Looks like it to me, but can someone confirm? Oh and thanks Hana for the lovely handwriting, and JD for providing the calibrated scan.

[Writer44]

That apache sunset has me rethinking my love of blue ink. I may have to switch.

 

By the way, I checked out your award winning handwriting contest entry and it is glorious.

[Melnicki]

The Apache Sunset is very close to Habanero isn't it? Looks like it to me, but can someone confirm? Oh and thanks Hana for the lovely handwriting, and JD for providing the calibrated scan.

 

No, Habanero barely shades, and goes from carrot to red-orange, but Apache Sunset goes from golden yellow to just beyond the carrot orange, maybe to a Florida orange rind. Their ranges do overlap, so in two different pens, you might get them to look the same,but in a dry pen the differences will be great. A page of Habanero is much easier on the eyes than a page of Apache, although both are out of the ordinary. By the way, Cayenne takes the Habanero color into the Ketchup range.

 

I hope no one opposes my choices of imagery. All this stuff is so subjective.

Edited June 3, 2008 by Melnicki

[kiavonne]

The Apache Sunset is very close to Habanero isn't it? Looks like it to me, but can someone confirm? Oh and thanks Hana for the lovely handwriting, and JD for providing the calibrated scan.

 

No, Habanero barely shades, and goes from carrot to red-orange, but Apache Sunset goes from golden yellow to just beyond the carrot orange, maybe to a Florida orange rind. Their ranges do overlap, so in two different pens, you might get them to look the same,but in a dry pen the differences will be great. A page of Habanero is much easier on the eyes than a page of Apache, although both are out of the ordinary. By the way, Cayenne takes the Habanero color into the Ketchup range.

 

I hope no one opposes my choices of imagery. All this stuff is so subjective.

 

Heh, no, your imagery is fine.

 

I don't have Cayenne, probably won't get it. The Habanero looked like what I'd imagined Cayenne to be, where the Apache went into the color I thought Habanero would be but with a lot more shading. I'm quite happy with the Apache. The Habanero would make a great editing ink, though.

 

 

[Bananafish]

"The Ketchup range" - I like that Also like ink that shades! Sounds like the Apache Sunset would look pretty with my Pilot flex thingy. Won't be as pretty as Hana's writing I'm sure. I already have Habanero so don't want to get the Apache Sunset if they're too similar. Thank you Melnicki and kiavonne again

[1cockycop]

I bought Apache Sunset (this morning actually!) after receiving a sample from Pear Tree. Their "sampler" program will be the death of me as far as inks are concerned!

 

This is a VERY useful ink. I originally didn't think I would use it that much, but I love the shading! If I could find a red/black shading combination I would be in heaven!

[freznow]

Oh that's so beautiful! I'll have to try that sometime.

[Annie]

Here is an example of Noodler's Apache Sunset, written by Hana, with a Mabie Todd 'Swan' no. 2 Binderized super needlepoint flex. Beautiful shading!

[Philip1209]

Wow, your writing is beautiful. However, I am not a big fan of Emily Dickinson The ink is really nice- I'm surprised at how little it feathers.

Edited June 17, 2008 by Philip1209

[Annie]

Philip -

Hana wrote this review; she's currently studying in Europe and probably too busy to post here. I bumped it up because her calligraphy displays the shading properties of Apache Sunset, produced with a flex nib.

Edited June 17, 2008 by Annie

[ethernautrix]

By the way, Cayenne takes the Habanero color into the Ketchup range.

 

I hope no one opposes my choices of imagery. All this stuff is so subjective.

Your imagery is perfect!

 

I wish Apache Sunset were NAMED Cayenne, cos I love cayenne pepper, but I prefer the Apache Sunset color. Oh well. (Heh.)