Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black

[h.farmawi]

i inked my Sheaffer 300 M nib with it about a week ago filled it twice till now and its all fine .

[theverdictis]

Nice to see it doesn't feather on the 'cheap paper'

 

Ben

[RodgerM]

Never actually used this ink in a fountain pen, but it makes a terrific dip pen ink by adding 1 1/2 oz of Brilliant Black to 1 heaping teaspoon of powdered Gum Arabic. This is the recipe that Mr. Bill Lilly uses. Great for Spencerian and English Roundhand. Very fine hairlines.

[Albinoni]

Is this black darker than Montblanc mystery black or even Aurora black

[h.farmawi]

Is this black darker than Montblanc mystery black or even Aurora black

didnt try any of those but i dont think there is more darker inks, maybe... i dont know .

[h.farmawi]

found this review for the Permanent MB Black https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/254004-montblanc-permanent-black/
from the pictures i see that the Pelikan BB is darker.
dont know about the mystery black or even Aurora black

[h.farmawi]

Filled my Platignum Pressmatic with it today and this ink writes flows well with Flex nibshttp://imageshack.com/a/img835/3520/uzi5.jpg

[Bo Bo Olson]

Aurora is blacker...before Noodler inks Pelikan was second blackest.

[Reygan]

This is my first black ink, and my go-to black ink as well. Cheap, reliable, great for writing boring official documents.

[lapis]

The thing about Pelikan's use of the term "Billiant" goes like this:

 

(1) they use it for their black, red, green, and brown, but not for their royal blue, blue-black, violet, and turquoise. Black, red, green, and brown are not issued (also) as "non"-brilliant, and royal blue, blue-black, violet, and turquoise are not available as "brilliant" versions. That all applies to their 4001 series in 30-ml bottles.

(2) the same also apples to their 4001s which also come in 50-ml bottles with the ledge for a pen, but only for the royal blue and brilliant black. The other colours are not available in those 50-ml bottles.

(3) FWIW, their web site does say "Brilliant" but the bottles' labels and boxes sometimes -- but not always -- say e.g. Brilliant Red and Brillant-Rot ("brillant" being the French and German versions of that adjective.

(4) all of the above rubbish is the situation here in good ol' Yermany but may not apply to the ourtside world.

 

Whew!

 

Main thing is that you've got them all, I mean for that price....

[JeanManuel]

Main thing is that you've got them all, I mean for that price....

Indeed. You can get it as low as 27€/L... (e.g. the 1L bottles on amazon. Well then you'd have to share with friends ...)

Edited April 29, 2014 by JeanManuel

[theverdictis]

Today i got myself a Pelikan 4001 Brillant Black 30ml ink bottle im using it with a Parker 45 F Nib, such a nice ink very smooth flowing.

here is some pictures :

http://imageshack.com/a/img843/8211/veln.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img855/8599/93cd.jpg

 

Really nice ink. Thanks for the pics.

 

Ben

[h.farmawi]

Really nice ink. Thanks for the pics.

 

Ben

Thanks Sir.

[indigoskye]

This was the first black ink I used for my fountain pens. I never bought a bottle, but I have a box or two of carts with it. It is nice and dark, inexpensive, and I find that if I use it with a fine nib, I can write in my moleskine with it successfully. Lately, I've been thinking of picking up a 30ml bottle of it. It is a nice all-purpose ink for daily writing.

[Surain Kanaparan]

I changed from Quink Black to Pelikan almost 2 years ago as Parker inks started getting expensive. 4001 brilliant black is simply awesome and reasonably priced.

[fasthall]

4001 black is my first bottled ink too.

But I'm considering Noodler's black if I want to buy black ink next time.

[h.farmawi]

I changed from Quink Black to Pelikan almost 2 years ago as Parker inks started getting expensive. 4001 brilliant black is simply awesome and reasonably priced.

i agree the Parker Quink is Double the price!

[h.farmawi]

4001 black is my first bottled ink too.

But I'm considering Noodler's black if I want to buy black ink next time.

my second Black was the Sheaffer Skrip...also a nice ink!

[Kyburo]

 

Yep.

This ink can lead anyone to damage their nibs. It usually starts with increasing the flow a little, and ends with a nib which writes too wet.

 

So, if you *only* have the 4001, better get another ink (Diamine for instance) as a reference.

Sorry I'm not sure what exactly you mean? Currently Brilliant Black 4001 is my go-to black, and doing exams at the moment which require black ink, all my pens are loaded with it just in case I have to switch on the spot. This includes Pilot fine and Pelikan fine which are vastly different widths!

 

I'm wondering though are you saying that this ink can in some way damage pens, through greater friction on finer (dryer) writing pens or the ink itself is doing something, or just people who take pliers to their nibs?

 

Just want to make sure I'm not doing something stupid.

[carlos.q]

As has been said many times, all inks are not created equal. Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black is an excellent, well behaved and water resistant ink. It excels in wet writers such as Pelikans and others.

 

The problem arises when someone pretends to use a dry ink with a dry writer. The result is usually poor flow and a lighter grayish color. The answer is not to fiddle around with the nibs but to use a wetter ink such as Aurora.