Bought A Lamy 2000 From Ebay But

[Albinoni]

Not that long ago I bought a brand new Lamy 2000 makrolon from eBay here in Australia and the pen was posted from Sydney to Perth and got it in bit under a week. Anyhow the pen arrived in a envelope wrapped in bubble wrap and did not have a box.

 

Now I'm not sure if it's genuine or fake. I am 100 % sure it's genuine and the feel of the body does feel like makrolon and its identical to my other makrolon ones too. I did fill it up with ink and it writes flawlessly just like my other ones. Also the seller did claim it being 100 % genuine.

 

But why didn't it come in a box. This is what puzzles me

[vikrmbedi]

did you discuss the shipping cost as well as shipping method with the seller. because some sellers tend to remove the packaging to reduce shipping costs.

 

some sellers mention this in the listing itself and add shipping costs if you want the box too.

 

although it is a practice which is gaining traction(IMHO), I hope it doesn't and the seller's put a single price for the pen with its packaging and secure or trackable shipping.

[Koyote]

If it looks and works just like your other L2000, why would you suspect that it is counterfeit?

 

The seller was just trying to fit the pen into a smaller package, which is cheaper to post.

[yogalarva]

The 2000 doesn't exactly seem like a pen that would be appealing to counterfeiters... I know I am watching a 2000 SS on ebay that says it won't come with a box, which doesn't concern me too much. It just seems like not a worthwhile pen to copy.

[ac12]

Many people throw away or loose the box the pen comes in.

If you are going to USE the pen, why keep the box, it is just another thing to store, and storage space is something that too quickly fills up.

I do not have ANY of the boxes from my pens from college, the boxes are long gone.

[Mesu]

Even Hero 616 counterfeits are floating around. So i wouldn't put it beyond the counterfeiters to produce a fake Lamy 2000.

 

But in the counterfeits' case the difference is very obvious.

 

If your Lamy 2000 looks and feels original and is trouble-free, then don't worry about it. The absence of the box doesn't make it a counterfeit.

[Albinoni]

Hi sorry my mistake here but I forgot to add that the shipping was free or shall I say he added free postage to it.

 

And I think your right the more heavier the item the more it will cost so he's removed the box to save more money.

 

He also did list that the pen was 100% authentic and like I said it did feel and look 100% genuine.

 

Thanks for your input.

[PAKMAN]

Thus far I've never heard of a fake 2000. Also fakers virtually never make the faked pens with a functional piston filler.

[Dickkooty2]

It is very interesting to me that the box doesn't seem to be a part of the value of the pen purchase.

 

The box is essential for a top price on toys from the 30's-50.'s, Wonderful artwork on the box. And it seems that the cheaper the toy originally, the more expensive it is, with its' original packaging. I did read somewhere that the rarest collectors items are those that had little value at the time and so were just thrown away. Hence scarcity.

 

Any thoughts/observations? I'm just ranting away ...

[Brotzmann]

This is the only thing I've seen close to a fake 2000. It would be obvious if it was a Klamy instead of a Lamy I think since it's got a c/c instead of piston filler mech.

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/hunnyhunt/item/bauhaus2012_fp/

Edited January 24, 2014 by Brotzmann

[soapytwist]

I think boxes help with ascertaining whether an old pen has been well kept; in that way they might add to value/give provenance to older pens.

My first Lamy 2000 (back in 1995) was from a stationery shop in Munich. They asked me if I wanted the box, to which I said yes. So they gave me the same cardboard wrap-type box that Lamy then used for most of their pens, not a gift box. I think Pelikan still sells their fountain pens in ordinary cardboard boxes unless you specify a gift box - gift boxes aren't a given for German pen companies!

[setriode]

How very interesting. I am also in Perth and bought the same pen, plainly from the same seller because it arrived in the same type of envelope you describe. There is a postal address on the envelope. I wonder if we might not write to him and offer to pay for the postage and packaging of both boxes in a single Australia Post box and save some money that way.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that the pen is perfectly genuine from its look feel and cap innards.

[Albinoni]

How very interesting. I am also in Perth and bought the same pen, plainly from the same seller because it arrived in the same type of envelope you describe. There is a postal address on the envelope. I wonder if we might not write to him and offer to pay for the postage and packaging of both boxes in a single Australia Post box and save some money that way.

 

Hi Setriode i think the sellers name was 123palpal77 and yes like you mentioned it came in a envelope wrapped in bubble wrap. No big deal now as I've already got it and i am sure its genuine, well it feels like it.

There is no doubt in my mind that the pen is perfectly genuine from its look feel and cap innards.

[Tombstone]

Some thoughts:

 

- a working LAMY 2000 fake still does not exist - there may be look-alikes, but I talk abour "working", so I intend ink window and piston, together with the possibility to dismount everything.

 

- the box for the LAMY 2000-01 (the Makrolon-type) is the 08/15-standard-all-over-the-world-LAMY-Box, so it's nothing special. It's the same one as with most of the other "better" pens of LAMY. Don't mix this with the box for the steel version (-02), the LE or p.p. the DiALOG - these are dedicated

 

- check with your local LAMY-Dealer - he might give you this box for free or ac ouple of bucks. Last year I just throw maybe ten of them into the trash...

[Ethereal Winter Wind]

How very interesting. I am also in Perth and bought the same pen, plainly from the same seller because it arrived in the same type of envelope you describe. There is a postal address on the envelope. I wonder if we might not write to him and offer to pay for the postage and packaging of both boxes in a single Australia Post box and save some money that way.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that the pen is perfectly genuine from its look feel and cap innards.

 

Same here, I am also in Perth and bought a LAMY 2000 from ebay and got it in the same manner you to describe.

[Aysedasi]

Many people throw away or loose the box the pen comes in.

If you are going to USE the pen, why keep the box, it is just another thing to store, and storage space is something that too quickly fills up.

I do not have ANY of the boxes from my pens from college, the boxes are long gone.

I keep all my boxes. Never use them, but if I want to sell a pen on, buyers seem to appreciate having the original box. Particularly if that is pristine - that seems to show an additional degree of care to me.

[Ted A]

I keep all my boxes. Never use them, but if I want to sell a pen on, buyers seem to appreciate having the original box. Particularly if that is pristine - that seems to show an additional degree of care to me.

 

If the pen isn't new, I start to get nervous if the seller says much of anything beyond that there is a box. More than that and I begin to wonder of the old flim-flam," distract the rube" is at work. Not that it is, but it makes me look more carefully

[alexander_k]

I wonder if there are counterfeit piston fillers around in general. Any experiences?

[Tombstone]

Until today I have not seen one...

[ExcaliburZ]

I wonder if there are counterfeit piston fillers around in general. Any experiences?

Piston fillers are not easy and would make a knock off not worth doing. There is a semi Lamy 2000 clone that is a c/c filler. If you want an inexpensive piston filler look at Noodler's.