The Gama Supreme: Part 2

[hari317]

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Link to Part 1 of this review

[mohit agrawal]

Great review.. Congrats for acquiring such a beautiful pen..

 

It would be exciting to see how it stakes up against wality "jumbo" ( i think 71jbd is there biggest pen)

[mohit agrawal]

Even i like the idea of c/c. It would even boost Sales of Indian make pens.

[shrujaya]

"The Gama Supreme Round Ends (RE)" looks really supreme, Hari ... looks like the Masterpiece and Supreme (RE) were separated at birth ... one became rich in Hyderabad and one remained simple in Chennai ... again, those ripples, maan ... I do think Gem should get the nib permanently changed to No. 10 monotone ... it is a wonderful nib ... it is there on my GS-FE pen, which I received from you, and previously on all my Advocates ... it is a tried and tested nib ... I also wish and hope that Gem keeps the production going ... their earlier GS-FE is a splendid pen too ...

 

My heart, though, still beats faster whenever I look at the GS-FE ...

 

Regards,

 

shrujaya

[hari317]

Great review.. Congrats for acquiring such a beautiful pen..

 

It would be exciting to see how it stakes up against wality "jumbo" ( i think 71jbd is there biggest pen)

Thank you so much.

 

the 71JBD is a slender slim pen when compared to the Gama supreme. HTH.

[hari317]

Even i like the idea of c/c. It would even boost Sales of Indian make pens.

lets see if they wake up to our demands.

[hari317]

"The Gama Supreme Round Ends (RE)" looks really supreme, Hari ... looks like the Masterpiece and Supreme (RE) were separated at birth ... one became rich in Hyderabad and one remained simple in Chennai ... again, those ripples, maan ... I do think Gem should get the nib permanently changed to No. 10 monotone ... it is a wonderful nib ... it is there on my GS-FE pen, which I received from you, and previously on all my Advocates ... it is a tried and tested nib ... I also wish and hope that Gem keeps the production going ... their earlier GS-FE is a splendid pen too ...

 

My heart, though, still beats faster whenever I look at the GS-FE ...

 

Regards,

 

shrujaya

Dear Jai, thanks for the valuable comments.

Best

Hari

[Aramchek]

Good AND cheap? That doesn't make sense! There must be a catch.

 

Do you know who made the two tone nib? I have a pen with a nib that looks the same and as far as I can recall it is quite nice (although too broad for my taste).

[Bo Bo Olson]

Those Indian hard rubber ripple pens are so beautiful.

Ebonite feeds a real plus.

I liked the flat topped ones.

 

I'm not into ED pens, unfortunatly.

[Ashram]

Thanks for posting another great review and for introducing me to top quality Indian fountain pens here at FPN. The Gama Supreme has a classic, elegant look and I can't wait to add a couple to my collection. The shape and style reminds me of a Hakase pen I have been lusting after for a while and the price can't be beat; even when international shipping is added. It will be interesting to compare these to my Kim & Co. jumbo pen which is a favorite of mine.

[hari317]

Do you know who made the two tone nib?

nope, perhaps Aquarry in Taiwan.

[hari317]

Those Indian hard rubber ripple pens are so beautiful.

Ebonite feeds a real plus.

I liked the flat topped ones.

 

I'm not into ED pens, unfortunatly.

Thank you BoBo.

 

I feel a good feed is a good feed regradless of material(excellence by design), look at the Japanese big three feeders, all plastic but superb performance.

[hari317]

Thanks for posting another great review and for introducing me to top quality Indian fountain pens here at FPN. The Gama Supreme has a classic, elegant look and I can't wait to add a couple to my collection. The shape and style reminds me of a Hakase pen I have been lusting after for a while and the price can't be beat; even when international shipping is added. It will be interesting to compare these to my Kim & Co. jumbo pen which is a favorite of mine.

Thank you Ashram.

 

This pen is comparable to your Kim Jumbo. I believe there are other smaller Kim pens floating around, but still being called Jumbo.

[a_m]

Good AND cheap? That doesn't make sense! There must be a catch.

 

I feel scared of its ink tank. Burps at 35% to 40% capacity - which is a lot of ink in its king size barrel. But still a feel good FP.

[hari317]

I am somewhat skeptical of ED burp reports under the Indian conditions of uniform ambient heat ambient temperature(25 to 30deg C) being quite close to human body temperature(37deg C). Unless you travel in and out of A/C rooms quite often. I have found that the greasing of section threads is adequate insurance provided the nib and feed are tight fitted to section which is indeed the case with Gama Supreme(across 11 examples so far). I wipe away the castor-rosin compound that Gem applies to the section threads and apply relatively thinner silicone grease (NLGI-2) instead.

 

Edit: added clarity...

Edited November 14, 2013 by hari317

[a_m]

I am somewhat skeptical of ED burp reports under the Indian conditions of uniform ambient heat. Unless you travel in and out of A/C rooms quite often. I have found that the greasing of section threads is adequate insurance provided the nib and feed are tight fitted to section which is indeed the case with Gama Supreme(across 11 examples so far). I wipe away the castor-rosin compound that Gem applies to the section threads and apply relatively thinner silicone grease (NLGI-2) instead...

 

You lighted some shimmer of hope with your "uniform ambient heat" theory - and this time I thought I would be more scientific. I found that excluding the threaded part of barrel, the ink capacity is about 3 ml. So, I filled it with 1 ml of ink, wiped away whatever was there on thread, and applied silicon grease - the results are below:

 

As I invert to write, and hold the FP for few seconds

 

 

 

The first drop comes out

 

 

 

And the second drop queuing up

 

 

 

I have found that in my FP the burp starts somewhere between 35% to 40% of ink - so thats somewhere around the ink capacity of the long international cartridge.

 

I think, the feed needs quite an improvement if the FP needs to function at very low levels. Otherwise its a good FP.

 

The only FP till date that I have found to work till the last drop is the Sheaffer NN (which is not supposed to be used as ED).

 

and btw, the ambiance at my place is already verging on the cold with jackets and sweaters pulled out :-)

Edited November 14, 2013 by a_m

[hari317]

The symptoms in your pen, indicate an air leak. If ink starts dribbling out as soon as you have inverted the pen, it is likely not a thermal issue(since the thermal time constants with the hand as the source of heat will be of the order of 10s of seconds).

 

Check if the nib and feed are a tight fit in the section.

[hari317]

and btw, the ambiance at my place is already verging on the cold with jackets and sweaters pulled out :-)

ah! that might explain it.

[a_m]

The symptoms in your pen, indicate an air leak. If ink starts dribbling out as soon as you have inverted the pen, it is likely not a thermal issue(since the thermal time constants with the hand as the source of heat will be of the order of 10s of seconds).

 

Check if the nib and feed are a tight fit in the section.

 

In case of air leak, it should leak even at 100% capacity

[a_m]

ah! that might explain it.

So is there another theory ?