Cheque Writing Ink?

[kalali]

Fraud protection isnt why I started the thread. I WANT to use my FPs and was looking for a decent ink that was fast drying.

Im aware of the security features of modern cheques, thats not really my concern here.

 

Thanks

 

You did say "...and have good security." in your original post.That's why a lot folks assumed that as a requied criterion. Aside from that, Noodler's Black is good ink with solid reputation. .

[century]

 

You did say "...and have good security." in your original post.That's why a lot folks assumed that as a requied criterion. Aside from that, Noodler's Black is good ink with solid reputation. .

 

You're right, I should have just said fast drying....as thats my main concern.

[SeeksAdvice]

As a prosecutor, I find this discussion somewhat irrelevant...

 

Check fraud can be accomplished with a scanner, some software, a printer, and blank check stock.

 

I don't care what ink you use on the check, none of the inks protects against photoshopping ;P

[TSherbs]

As a prosecutor, I find this discussion somewhat irrelevant...

 

Check fraud can be accomplished with a scanner, some software, a printer, and blank check stock.

 

I don't care what ink you use on the check, none of the inks protects against photoshopping ;P

True, but there is more than one type of fraud. Washable or fading ink isn't a good idea for legal documents, especially if they refer to large amounts of money. But it turns out that the OP only really cares about fast drying.

[aawhite]

Noodler's Heart of Darkness.

[Vendome]

I use Waterman Black. A classic.

[inkstainedruth]

Fraud protection isnt why I started the thread. I WANT to use my FPs and was looking for a decent ink that was fast drying.

Im aware of the security features of modern cheques, thats not really my concern here.

 

Thanks

If you want fast drying, Organics Studio Charles Darwin is pretty near instantaneous (and about the blackest ink I've ever seen -- Noodler's notwithstanding. However, it does have issues with spread and showthrough. I've been using it on checks the last couple of days, and I'm just hoping that I can decipher the register when the statement comes....

I've also been happy with Noodler's El Lawrence, which is also pretty permanent; but until I can get a full bottle (and then even so) I think I'm going back to using Kung Te Cheng for the most part for checks.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[SeeksAdvice]

True, but there is more than one type of fraud. Washable or fading ink isn't a good idea for legal documents, especially if they refer to large amounts of money. But it turns out that the OP only really cares about fast drying.

 

I gave up on the durability element for 90%, or more, of my documents. Everything out here is now digitally processed. Once scanned in, the scanned image becomes the original by rules. If I have to FAX a document, the copy becomes the original by rules.

 

I have seen check "washing" out here, and some of it is so obvious that it's not even funny. Had obliterated the surface of the paper in fact. Depending on how far into the paper the ink penetrates, even the toughest ink in the world won't survive the removal of its substrate.

 

In theory, security shouldn't just be for large dollar value checks. All it takes is one check; blank or filled out. If a cashier were really determined, they could take say a check written to the coffee shop where they work and convert it to a check to themselves in a large dollar amount, or clone it into many checks. Whether the check is for $1 or $1,000,000, people can still mess with the document if they really wanted to.

 

Just not sure that I buy the whole protects against check fraud thing. Has anybody done tests with blank check stock to see how well the various claims hold up? I know from personal experience that Bad Belted Kingfisher can be easily attacked with simple water based on using it to label peat pots thinking that it would survive watering.

[mhosea]

 

Just not sure that I buy the whole protects against check fraud thing. Has anybody done tests with blank check stock to see how well the various claims hold up? I know from personal experience that Bad Belted Kingfisher can be easily attacked with simple water based on using it to label peat pots thinking that it would survive watering.

 

The claims seem to get stronger when they are paraphrased incorrectly from memory. Last time I checked it was only "resists the tools of forgers", not "protects against check fraud", and in context, the "tools of forgers" should be understood to be limited to removal or alteration of ink from any paper document (including checks). In the case of the Warden series, you can add to that providing a theoretical forensic avenue for determining that some added writing was not done with ink from the same bottle. I'm sympathetic to the argument that this is of marginal importance anymore, but of course it has been awhile since this particular marketing prose was penned in the first place.

 

Perhaps there is something in peat pots that interferes with binding to any residual cellulose. All I really know is that BBK has a percentage of non-waterfast dye. There is a cellulose-reactive part, however, and it is both substantial and effective on paper.

 

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beforebleach

After bleach. The left edge was immersed for one minute in bleach. Then the entire thing was rinsed in water and immersed in bleach for another minute.

 

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Check out the Namiki Blue. Now you see it, now you don't. Of course you couldn't get away with washing these checks in bleach, anyway, but there you go.

Edited September 6, 2013 by mhosea

[carlosviet]

I use Waterman Black. A classic.

 

I agree. Or Blue. Waterman: practical no-nonsense ink that dries almost immediatly never bleeds or shows through.

[fpenluver]

Private reserve invincible black. Use with F nib. As far as I can remember it dries almost instantly. The drawback is you may need to use the pen everyday and perhap you will need a wet tissue to wipe the nib everyday at the start of the day as well (if not it will skip, I am not sure whether this was caused by incompatible pen, but I have not use this ink on any other pen yet).

[BamaPen]

I like Private Reserve Midnight Blues Fast Drying. Nice dark blue and dries almost instantly. Half the price of Noodler's and most of the others listed above.

[loudkenny]

I was going to say good ol' Skrip Red, but I decided to say PR DCSSB instead.

 

ken

[tonybelding]

Its obviously needs to be waterproof, quick drying and have good security. Blue or Black.

 

 

 

 

Sounds to me like a description of Private Reserve Invincible Black. Like many PR inks, it works best if diluted somewhat with water. I am using 1 part water per 2 parts ink with excellent results.

Edited September 13, 2013 by tonybelding