Pope's Pen

[Laura N]

Boy, if I get to be the Pope, which is unlikely as both a woman and a Protestant, I am so making someone give me a Pope Julius II, 888 edition.

[OcalaFlGuy]

Ya know, the Pope did reside in France for most of the 1300s- just sayin ^_~

 

I guess he's due to retire after all.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

[Harlequin]

Boy, if I get to be the Pope, which is unlikely as both a woman and a Protestant, I am so making someone give me a Pope Julius II, 888 edition.

The Clergy in the Catholic Church have to take a vow of poverty, so I'm betting that wouldn't be looked at as a great idea ^_~. Actually, I wonder if that applies to the Pope and Cardinals. Edited February 12, 2013 by Harlequin

[Florenze]

Boy, if I get to be the Pope, which is unlikely as both a woman and a Protestant, I am so making someone give me a Pope Julius II, 888 edition.

 

If you get to be the Pope as both a woman and a Protestant, I'd say all bets are off and the rule books are pretty much out the window at that point. lol And you would SO deserve that pen!

[Harlequin]

Boy, if I get to be the Pope, which is unlikely as both a woman and a Protestant, I am so making someone give me a Pope Julius II, 888 edition.

 

If you get to be the Pope as both a woman and a Protestant, I'd say all bets are off and the rule books are pretty much out the window at that point. lol And you would SO deserve that pen!

LOL! Very good point!

[sopa]

There was this thread on FPN that mentioned the Pope using an MB 146 for signing the official papal documents.

[humsin]

No need pens anymore, He today gave the news of His retirment.

 

Ah, so retirees can no longer use a pen!!

 

Benedict XVI was first and foremost a scholar before he became Pope. As a professor and intellectual, he will most likely continue to use a pen.

[mhosea]

Actually, I wonder if that applies to the Pope and Cardinals.

 

It is not like I am any authority on such things, but I do not think diocesan priests usually take a vow of poverty. The priests in the "religious orders" do, e.g. monks. I have not studied the matter, but I would guess that most Popes in recent history were diocesan priests who ascended the ranks.

[penrivers]

No need pens anymore, He today gave the news of His retirment.

 

Ah, so retirees can no longer use a pen!!

 

Benedict XVI was first and foremost a scholar before he became Pope. As a professor and intellectual, he will most likely continue to use a pen.

I mean officially, I don't think he wants to go in controversy with the new Pope, of course and undoubtedly that He will be writing

until the last day of His life.

[Wheatflower]

post='2596149']It is not like I am any authority on such things, but I do not think diocesan priests usually take a vow of poverty. The priests in the "religious orders" do, e.g. monks.

 

I am pretty sure this is correct.

 

 

Also, all of the posts along the lines of "He is from Germany, so he must use German pens" or "He is living in Italy, so he must use Italian pens" amuse me. I have pens from Germany, Taiwan, and India in my collection, and I've never been to any of those places. Why should the pope be any different? With as much as he writes, he'd probably get a lot of use out of a Vac 700.

Edited February 12, 2013 by Wheatflower

[Sailor Kenshin]

Boy, if I get to be the Pope, which is unlikely as both a woman and a Protestant, I am so making someone give me a Pope Julius II, 888 edition.

The Clergy in the Catholic Church have to take a vow of poverty, so I'm betting that wouldn't be looked at as a great idea ^_~. Actually, I wonder if that applies to the Pope and Cardinals.

 

 

It does.

 

There was an older thread about what pen the Pope uses, and I have a foggy memory of a gold-and-white presentation model from some high-end maker.

 

I am sure Benedict and all his predecessors used more than one fountain pen.

[Harlequin]

post='2596149']It is not like I am any authority on such things, but I do not think diocesan priests usually take a vow of poverty. The priests in the "religious orders" do, e.g. monks.

 

I am pretty sure this is correct.

 

 

Also, all of the posts along the lines of "He is from Germany, so he must use German pens" or "He is living in Italy, so he must use Italian pens" amuse me. I have pens from Germany, Taiwan, and India in my collection, and I've never been to any of those places. Why should the pope be any different? With as much as he writes, he'd probably get a lot of use out of a Vac 700.

 

Just to play Devil's Advocate, the Pope is different in the same way the Queen of England is different, or the President of the US. No one in the UK wants to see HRH being chauffeured around in a Chevy. Ditto for the POTUS; his official car couldn't be a Beamer. Although I think these "unwritten mandates" have relaxed significantly over the years, a high profile leader is still usually expected to use a product made by his or her group- unless that doesn't exist. Let's face it, no one would expect the PM of Canada to use only a Canadian-made Esterbrook just b/c it was made there... a MB is better suited for the position. These expectations may not make much sense or even match reality, but they are usually pretty consistent across very varied groups and regardless of which leader you are talking about. IMO, anyway.

[Harlequin]

We are, of course, talking about specifically the FPs being used for public and official signings. I'm relatively certain few people care which FP (if any) the Pope would use to scribble a grocery list, as it were. LoL!

Edited February 12, 2013 by Harlequin

[humsin]

post='2596149']It is not like I am any authority on such things, but I do not think diocesan priests usually take a vow of poverty. The priests in the "religious orders" do, e.g. monks.

 

 

Also, all of the posts along the lines of "He is from Germany, so he must use German pens" or "He is living in Italy, so he must use Italian pens" amuse me. I have pens from Germany, Taiwan, and India in my collection, and I've never been to any of those places. Why should the pope be any different? With as much as he writes, he'd probably get a lot of use out of a Vac 700.

 

I'm just considering that if he grew up in Germany, he may have had greater exposure to German pens, and maybe he may be accustomed to using them since his early days.

[Sailor Kenshin]

We are, of course, talking about specifically the FPs being used for public and official signings. I'm relatively certain few people care which FP (if any) the Pope would use to scribble a grocery list, as it were. LoL!

 

I would, but again that's just me.

[Sonnet]

Actually, I wonder if that applies to the Pope and Cardinals.

 

It is not like I am any authority on such things, but I do not think diocesan priests usually take a vow of poverty. The priests in the "religious orders" do, e.g. monks. I have not studied the matter, but I would guess that most Popes in recent history were diocesan priests who ascended the ranks.

 

Indeedily, as far as diocesan priests not taking the same vows that monks and nuns do. If you're a diocesan priest from a wealthy family, so much the better.

(Oh, don't yell at me like that, I've been a practicing Catholic for 29 years. I get to make all the jokes).

[mboschm]

Actually, I wonder if that applies to the Pope and Cardinals.

 

It is not like I am any authority on such things, but I do not think diocesan priests usually take a vow of poverty. The priests in the "religious orders" do, e.g. monks. I have not studied the matter, but I would guess that most Popes in recent history were diocesan priests who ascended the ranks.

 

As far as I'm concerned, all clergymen take vow of poverty, but it is only "effective" on "regular clerics" i.e., monks, nuns and friars, because they do so both at a personal and order level. Diocesan clergymen (priests, bishops and so on) only do so at a personal level, so basically everything the pope "owns" is actually owned by the church. Just an old trick to allow them to live a life of luxury while being actually poor.

[mgm1988]

I know a number of clergy who are real fountain pen/ ink/ stationery fans.

[Malice]

And:

Another photo, this time with a fountain pen.

 

Do you think he rotates pens for titles and text ?

Because the title looks like it could be written with an italic,

but the text he's writing is way finer and less caligraphy-like.

 

M.

[Sailor Kenshin]

Someone else may write the titles, like an official calligrapher.