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Hi Guys!

 

I am thinking about purchasing a Pilot Falcon, but can't decide whether to get the EF or F nib.

 

If anyone has experience, and/or writing samples of Japanese size EF and F (possibly from the Falcon itself) , it would be much appreciated and helpful.

 

I realise that the Falcon has a Soft/Semi-Flex nib and the line varies, but i would still like samples from EF and F.

 

Thankyou.

Tom.

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If anyone has experience, and/or writing samples of Japanese size EF and F (possibly from the Falcon itself) , it would be much appreciated and helpful.

Hi Tom,

 

I have two Pilot Vanishing Points, one F, one EF. The EF has a noticeably finer line than the F. (And the VP F is noticeably finer than the F nibs on a Waterman and an Omas I also own.) The VP EF puts out a quite dramatically thin line. Neither nib does much about giving you the ability to produce lines of varying thickness, but if you like really fine lines, you'll be happy with Pilot's interpretation of EF.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Marc

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Here's a video comparing all four Falcon nib sizes:

http://www.inknouveau.com/2012/10/pilot-metal-falcon-soft-nib-showcase.html

 

And some writing samples:

http://www.gouletpens.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/nibnook/1318_PN-MetalFalcon-14k-SEF.jpg

http://www.gouletpens.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/nibnook/1318_PN-MetalFalcon-14k-SF.jpg

 

The SEF nib is amaaazing. I love it!

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Hi Guys!

 

I am thinking about purchasing a Pilot Falcon, but can't decide whether to get the EF or F nib.

 

If anyone has experience, and/or writing samples of Japanese size EF and F (possibly from the Falcon itself) , it would be much appreciated and helpful.

 

I realise that the Falcon has a Soft/Semi-Flex nib and the line varies, but i would still like samples from EF and F.

 

Thankyou.

Tom.

 

 

Here's an extra variable to think about when working with fine/ef/eef nibs: ink flow has a lot to do with how thick a line you wind up with. I've had F's the wrote more like M, for example, because they had a very juicy ink flow. I have a needlepoint that isn't quite needle because it has a fairly wet flow. My wife recently got a F Namiki -- it wrote like an EF when I only dipped it; it's a slightly wide F after filling the converter and writing with it for an hour or so.

 

Either consider buying the Falcon from a nibmeister who can adjust the flow to your precise specifications, or learn what you need to learn to tweak the juiciness of a nib. I've gradually gotten more familiar with tweaking nibs for flow, but I can't handle everything I would like to, at least not yet. :-)

 

The bottom line is that not only will you have to decide what nib width is ideal for you, but you need to consider that in the larger context of the flow of ink, which has a lot of impact on the width of the line. You might, for example, prefer a wetter than average EF to a dry F - or the opposite, depending on your preferences.

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Hi Guys!

 

I am thinking about purchasing a Pilot Falcon, but can't decide whether to get the EF or F nib.

 

If anyone has experience, and/or writing samples of Japanese size EF and F (possibly from the Falcon itself) , it would be much appreciated and helpful.

 

I realise that the Falcon has a Soft/Semi-Flex nib and the line varies, but i would still like samples from EF and F.

 

Thankyou.

Tom.

 

 

Here's an extra variable to think about when working with fine/ef/eef nibs: ink flow has a lot to do with how thick a line you wind up with. I've had F's the wrote more like M, for example, because they had a very juicy ink flow. I have a needlepoint that isn't quite needle because it has a fairly wet flow. My wife recently got a F Namiki -- it wrote like an EF when I only dipped it; it's a slightly wide F after filling the converter and writing with it for an hour or so.

 

Either consider buying the Falcon from a nibmeister who can adjust the flow to your precise specifications, or learn what you need to learn to tweak the juiciness of a nib. I've gradually gotten more familiar with tweaking nibs for flow, but I can't handle everything I would like to, at least not yet. :-)

 

The bottom line is that not only will you have to decide what nib width is ideal for you, but you need to consider that in the larger context of the flow of ink, which has a lot of impact on the width of the line. You might, for example, prefer a wetter than average EF to a dry F - or the opposite, depending on your preferences.

Thanks, that was one of my concerns but after looking at writing samples of the Falcon in EF and F, it looks like the EF keeps up quite well.

Tom.

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Here's a video comparing all four Falcon nib sizes:

http://www.inknouveau.com/2012/10/pilot-metal-falcon-soft-nib-showcase.html

 

And some writing samples:

http://www.gouletpens.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/nibnook/1318_PN-MetalFalcon-14k-SEF.jpg

http://www.gouletpens.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/nibnook/1318_PN-MetalFalcon-14k-SF.jpg

 

The SEF nib is amaaazing. I love it!

Thankyou.

I have seen those pictures and that video quite a few times.

To me it looks as if the EF writes a lot smoother, especially on the L's on "Pilot and Falcon". It also looks like it keeps a good flow of ink running. I guess I'll just have to buy one and find out.... One day.

Tom.

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