Fountain Pen As A Weapon?!?!

[humsin]

I mean for those who keep pens in their pockets, especially if you have a Pilot VP, would you use your fountain pen as one of your weapons of choice?

[Tdot]

I mean for those who keep pens in their pockets, especially if you have a Pilot VP, would you use your fountain pen as one of your weapons of choice?

If I'm close enough to use a fountain pen on someone... honestly, I think my thumbs are more dangerous.

[oldcbl]

There is an urban myth in the UK that in the 70's followers of Millwall Football Club used fountain pens filled with ammonia to disable opposition fans. Maybe they were just being very fastidious with their cleaning?

 

Picking up on an earlier comment there is also a weapon known as the 'Millwall Brick' which is an ordinary newspaper rolled in a certain way which creates a baton or night-stick that is unbelievably rigid and can inflict some serious damage!

[tempo]

What a scary title you have........

 

I thought you were stopped at the airport where your pens were confiscated by the world famous T*A.....

 

That was my first thought too. They confiscated my nail clippers, but allowed everyone else on board with Bic Stic pens. I'm still not sure what kind of chaos I could've have caused with a fingernail clipper, but for the paranoid, the idea of a small team of fighting men with sharp sticks is disturbing.

 

 

I guess the point is that nail clippers can cut cables... < 1mm at least..... though where are these cables located I have no idea :hmm1:

 

 

An real attack happened in China last month... on July 9th....

 

3 attackers used walking sticks as weapon to try to break into the cockpit.

 

Another 3 passengers of the same ancestry joined them....

 

They were beaten by 22 other passengers fighting for their life......

 

You can imagine how ugly it will be.... forced to kill to survive :( so very unCanadian.....

 

 

We really need some real security. not money making security :bonk: :bonk:

 

 

 

 

Sorry the attack was on June 29th, July 9th was the news article's date.

Edited August 8, 2012 by tempo

[professionaldilettante]

What a scary title you have........

 

I thought you were stopped at the airport where your pens were confiscated by the world famous T*A.....

 

That was my first thought too. They confiscated my nail clippers, but allowed everyone else on board with Bic Stic pens. I'm still not sure what kind of chaos I could've have caused with a fingernail clipper, but for the paranoid, the idea of a small team of fighting men with sharp sticks is disturbing.

 

I guess the point is that nail clippers can cut cables... < 1mm at least..... though where are these cables located I have no idea :hmm1:

 

 

An real attack happened in China last month... on July 9th....

 

3 attackers used walking sticks as weapon to try to break into the cockpit.

 

Another 3 passengers of the same ancestry joined them....

 

They were beaten by 22 other passengers fighting for their life......

 

You can imagine how ugly it will be.... forced to kill to survive :( so very unCanadian.....

 

 

We really need some real security. not money making security :bonk: :bonk:

I never understood the whole logic... If you slapped a super heavy duty door with lock on the cockpit and loaded the pilots up with all their needs, a private toilet, a place to sleep, and food, it really wouldn't matter if WW3 was breaking out in the cabin. What is most important is that the hijackers could never get into the cockpit. only after the plane has been landed, would the pilot ever poke their head out. Tah dah. No need for such a wasted effort on security forces...

[tempo]

I mean for those who keep pens in their pockets, especially if you have a Pilot VP, would you use your fountain pen as one of your weapons of choice?

 

Probably not in real life. It is very common in detective stories however.

 

For example, you are pushing someone out the window, they catch you as they fall, then, before you both go down, you stab their hands with your fountain pen

[flight878]

The Rotring 600 can act as a kubotan.

The Lamy DIalog 2 has many features found in writing instruments marketed as "tactical pens".

 

Of course, you must know how to use them in a self-defense manner, otherwise they're just pens.

[arcaneradio]

In Ian Flemming's "The Man with the Golden Gun" an fountain pen barrel was the barrel of the gun.

The rest was made up of a cigarette case and a lighter.

Francisco Scaramanga (The assassin) was played by the great actor Christopher Lee.

That's Cubby Broccolli's Man With The Golden Gun. Flemming's version was very different, and didn't involve Christopher Lee or a pistol that dismantled into other bits and pieces.

 

I bow to your knowledge. dogpoet

[pelahale]

A well- maintained Sheaffer Snorkel- filler could indeed squirt liquid over 10ft. All of my PFMs can shoot ink 10ft at least. Some saline inoculated with viral cultures of Hanta, Marburg, or similar aerosolizable hemorrhagic fever virus would be a potent weapon of mass destruction.

 

For a more conventional way in which a fountain pen could serve in both self-defense as well as assault weapon modes, see the film, Dangerous Liasons.

[sirach]

@Cerbeos, I'll see your shotgun and raise you this Mossberg 500:

 

http://www.geekologie.com/2011/07/15/ultimate-shotty-2.jpg

 

{apologies to OP for any perceived tangentialness to topic!)

 

Oh my!!! I NEED one of those for my gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This sounds like the start of another topic... pairing guns with pens

[Tdot]

I guess the point is that nail clippers can cut cables... < 1mm at least..... though where are these cables located I have no idea :hmm1:

Hmm. Well thinking from that perspective, wouldn't it be better if they let me keep my clippers, just in case there was a bomb on board? Then I could save the plane, being able to cut the red wire... or was it the blue wire... no the red wire... oh, that's why they want to take my clippers from me.

[professionaldilettante]

Some part of me thinks that this thread should be deleated, lest some government security bot probes it and lands our beloved pens on a no fly list... or worse, subject to the thievery that is checked baggage. So many tales of woe have been from things stolen from what we think are safe, and there isn't an agency that will step forward to be held accountable for their actions...

[Tom Aquinas]

A fountain pen is a writing instrument and not a weapon.

[tempo]

Some part of me thinks that this thread should be deleated, lest some government security bot probes it and lands our beloved pens on a no fly list... or worse, subject to the thievery that is checked baggage. So many tales of woe have been from things stolen from what we think are safe, and there isn't an agency that will step forward to be held accountable for their actions...

 

Fun fact: the word "Gun" is controlled on the Chinese internet, you can't use it without a license(such as a News network website will have).

 

To deal with this, a gun is called a "dog" in China. Toy gun powered by CO2 gas is called an "air dog"

 

"Where to get a new dog?","Is the Japanese dog good?" :ltcapd: :ltcapd: :ltcapd:

Edited August 8, 2012 by tempo

[Raskolnikov]

I carry around my Namiki Emperor Vermilion for the sole purpose of self defense.

[Tom Aquinas]

I have over the years used my P75,P51, MB 144 and Man 100 as very powerful weapons of mass destruction of my opposition. They have been responsible for many guided missals.

[pendulous]

I have over the years used my P75,P51, MB 144 and Man 100 as very powerful weapons of mass destruction of my opposition. They have been responsible for many guided missals.

 

.....wonder what the Catholic Church thinks of that?

Edited August 8, 2012 by pendulous

[Marveen1]

I can't believe no one has yet mentioned Jack Nicholsen's Joker flinging a (surely heavily-modified) quill pen as a dart and killing someone or other with it by hitting them in the throat (back a few years for this one, but if I remember it...)

 

At the time, I figured he must have loaded the pen with lead shims to make it fly so forcefully, as well as sharpening the nib to a razor. (That's the Joker for you.)

[Tom Aquinas]

I have over the years used my P75,P51, MB 144 and Man 100 as very powerful weapons of mass destruction of my opposition. They have been responsible for many guided missals.

 

.....wonder what the Catholic Church thinks of that?

 

 

I suspect His Holiness as we speak is using his fountain pen as a canon on that very point.

[pendulous]

I have over the years used my P75,P51, MB 144 and Man 100 as very powerful weapons of mass destruction of my opposition. They have been responsible for many guided missals.

 

.....wonder what the Catholic Church thinks of that?

 

 

I suspect His Holiness as we speak is using his fountain pen as a canon on that very point.

 

Sounds like a load of Papal Bull - missing the XF point.