Lamy Vista For Taking Notes In High School?

[savingbirds]

I'm not sure if a F nib Safari will be that much smoother than a G2, but I've used fountain pens since I started high school up until now (last semester of grade 10). All my pens work fine on note paper, but depending on the ink, you may not be able to write on both sides of the paper. Also the legal sized lined paper our school uses for "long answer test questions" is no better than tissue paper. Any stoke will feather, so I usually go back to a rollerball in those situations. A Safari is great to start, and along with the other advice, buy a converter and experiment with different inks!

[TemurAmir]

An EF Lamy will write something between the 0.5 and 0.7mm Pilots, if my memory serves right.

 

pilot .7 is what i use

alright so i ordered off jetpens a ef vista and 2 converters...one inside the pen and another just in case it runs out and im not at home

 

and then i bought a bottle of noodlers bp black off goulet...wish goulet had free shipping shipping almost costed me half the bottle itself

 

 

hopefully my handwriting will improve....my cursive is pretty bad and my print is even worse :S

 

I'm not sure how the two converters will help give you more ink supply. You can't really bring an extra converter filled with ink outside when you're traveling unless you somehow are able to plug off the hole near the top so the ink won't leak out. If you think you may use up more than a converter's fill of ink, you'd have to look at buying a box of cartridges. Noodler's black is a good choice for school.

 

Edited for spelling

Edited May 26, 2012 by TemurAmir

[savingbirds]

An EF Lamy will write something between the 0.5 and 0.7mm Pilots, if my memory serves right.

 

pilot .7 is what i use

alright so i ordered off jetpens a ef vista and 2 converters...one inside the pen and another just in case it runs out and im not at home

 

and then i bought a bottle of noodlers bp black off goulet...wish goulet had free shipping shipping almost costed me half the bottle itself

 

 

hopefully my handwriting will improve....my cursive is pretty bad and my print is even worse :S

 

I'm not sure how the two converters will help give you more ink supply. You can't really bring an extra converter filled with ink outside when you're traveling unless you somehow are able to plug off the whole near the top so the ink won't leak out. If you think you may use up more than a converter's fill of ink, you'd have to look at buying a box of cartridges. Noodler's black is a good choice for school.

I'm pretty sure they were confused. You can (usually) only fit one converter in a pen barrel, while a normal sized pen can hold two cartridges at the same time, with one as a backup.

[pen2paper]

The Lamy proprietary cartridge holds a lot of ink. Just 1 will fit in the body of the Safari.

 

 

International, short carts may be piggy back fit into the body of some cartridge pens, but not Safari.

 

One of the assets of Safari is that the feed holds a lot of ink. If you were to give the cart a squeeze into a unprimed feed, it would basically hold nearly the volume of a short international cart before it would bulb a drop out of the nib. Once the cart is empty, you easily write another page before there's evidence of ink starvation. Also why when you lay your Safari down to listen to the lecture, the capillary action resumes at the touch to paper.

[pen2paper]

G-2 is very nice, however, for long sessions of writing, such as class notes, reports, the size of the Safari may be more comfortable.

[John12]

wait, so i can't bring a z24 converter as a refill in case i run out? only cartridges? omg thank you lol, i just canceled an order for a couple converters....

 

 

btw, approximately how long will a converter last? (how many pages of notes)

i will be taking six 50 minute classes a day, and all classes will require lots of note-taking

[tomgartin]

wait, so i can't bring a z24 converter as a refill in case i run out? only cartridges? omg thank you lol, i just canceled an order for a couple converters....

 

 

btw, approximately how long will a converter last? (how many pages of notes)

i will be taking six 50 minute classes a day, and all classes will require lots of note-taking

 

Using a fine or extra-fine nib, you should be alright to get through a whole day of school. I'm in graduate school and I can typically get through two days worth of classes. Just get into the habit of checking the ink level the night before so you don't show up with a dry pen. Eventually you may want to get a second pen to carry in your bag as a backup for those occasional days when you forgot to refill the night before.

[P.A.R.]

wait, so i can't bring a z24 converter as a refill in case i run out? only cartridges? omg thank you lol, i just canceled an order for a couple converters....

 

 

btw, approximately how long will a converter last? (how many pages of notes)

i will be taking six 50 minute classes a day, and all classes will require lots of note-taking

 

I haven't used my Safari (EF) in a while, but I seem to recall it lasting around 8-10 sheets (not pages) of college rule paper before a refill. You should be fine if you just make a habit of refilling every night. This also means that ink stained fingers are more likely to be free of stains than if you fill in the morning

 

EDIT

 

If you need a good backup, I would suggest a Platinum Preppy - you can convert it to an eyedropper pen by placing an o-ring at the base of the threads, and fill the barrel directly (which gives you a very large ink capcity.) They're about $4 apiece, but they have fairly smooth nibs, good reliable flow, and have special caps that keep them from drying out for months at a time (excellent feature for an editing pen.) I actually prefer mine to my Safari/Vista.

Edited May 27, 2012 by P.A.R.

[MaikeruS]

wait, so i can't bring a z24 converter as a refill in case i run out? only cartridges? omg thank you lol, i just canceled an order for a couple converters....

 

 

btw, approximately how long will a converter last? (how many pages of notes)

i will be taking six 50 minute classes a day, and all classes will require lots of note-taking

 

 

You can't use a converter as a refill, but you could bring a bottle of ink, or a little plastic vial full of your favourite ink, around with you and just refill if you run out. It may look a bit odd in class though...

 

 

With an extra-fine nib, I can't see you running out of ink in a day. Say 2-4 pages (sides) of A4/letter paper per class, you should be fine. You can, and I do, carry around a couple of Lamy carts just in case, but it shouldn't be necessary to use them.

[pen2paper]

dawns on me I just saw a small refill bottle with syringe top. This might be an alternative If you can find one.

Some mess potential in class with out extreme care.

[CAG_1787]

Since the Lamys generally come packaged with a cart, keep that as your backup in your backpack and then practice the habit of regularly checking your converter. I found it more than capable of handling several days of lectures, personally.

[P.A.R.]

You can't use a converter as a refill, but you could bring a bottle of ink, or a little plastic vial full of your favourite ink, around with you and just refill if you run out. It may look a bit odd in class though...

Nah, if you really want to look odd you should bring a clear eyedropper pen and refill with a syringe in the middle of class.

 

Then again, normal is so boring :roflmho:

[nickapos]

I can not think a case in high school when the student will use a full international cartridge in note taking in one day.

I could believe that for college, but for high school a short cartridge per day should be enough. Then lamy's cartridges are closer to long international so you will get many days of writing out of them.

You can always refill it when you are at home from a bottle, and keep an extra cartridge with you during school hours just in case.

[John12]

the cartridge that comes with the lamy -- is it preopened? or can i just take it out and save it w/o fear of leaking? otherwise i might just buy $25 worth of lamy cartridges off amazon for emergencies...

 

btw, which lamy cartridge is iron gall? black, blue/black, or blue?

 

thanks

[tomgartin]

the cartridge that comes with the lamy -- is it preopened? or can i just take it out and save it w/o fear of leaking? otherwise i might just buy $25 worth of lamy cartridges off amazon for emergencies...

 

btw, which lamy cartridge is iron gall? black, blue/black, or blue?

 

thanks

 

No, it's sealed. There will be a cardboard ring as a spacer when you get your Vista that prevents it from being punctured. All you need to do to use the cartridge is to remove the spacer, put the cartridge in, and screw the barrel on. The tightening will force the seal to break.

[emiliovillegas]

Hi, I have lots of fp's and also use them for taking notes during the lectures. It is good for my hand since rollerballs are horrible to write with (long writing sesions)

My notebooks cost about 0.80 euro and I haven't had any problems with them. A Lamy vista is a great choice! Good luck!

Cheers

Emilio

[CAG_1787]

the cartridge that comes with the lamy -- is it preopened? or can i just take it out and save it w/o fear of leaking? otherwise i might just buy $25 worth of lamy cartridges off amazon for emergencies...

 

btw, which lamy cartridge is iron gall? black, blue/black, or blue?

 

thanks

 

To my knowledge, none of the Lamy inks are iron gall, or even waterproof, for that matter.

[MaikeruS]

the cartridge that comes with the lamy -- is it preopened? or can i just take it out and save it w/o fear of leaking? otherwise i might just buy $25 worth of lamy cartridges off amazon for emergencies...

 

btw, which lamy cartridge is iron gall? black, blue/black, or blue?

 

thanks

 

To my knowledge, none of the Lamy inks are iron gall, or even waterproof, for that matter.

 

None of the Lamy cartridges are iron-gall or waterproof, but the old bottled Blue-Black is/was iron-gall.

[John12]

are there any cartridges that are irongall/waterproof that fit the vista? i tried to find noodler's black cartridges but they don't seem to sell them

[P.A.R.]

Noodler's doesn't sell any inks in cartridge form - it's owner, Nathan Tardiff, is fairly committed to keeping costs down and trying to make the fountain pen competitive. Cartridges, in most cases, and considerably more expensive per volume than bottled ink.

 

You can always refill cartridges from a bottle using a syringe, however.