Pen Wouldn't Start On Copied Paper!

[ImolaS3]

Today in a long (but interesting meeting) i was trying to annotate various pieces of paper that had been printed and photocopied but my pen wouldn't start well at all! As it was my grail pen i was seriously perturbed!!

 

After a while I wrote in my webnotebook and it worked perfectly - same meeting.

 

Anyone else had similar? Wonderign if it is the copier process?

 

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[JefferyS]

My pens don't write well on laser-printed or photocopies paper. When I make my dot grid paper, I used an inkjet printer to avoid that.

[jar]

Was it two sided copies? If not, try writing on the back side and see what happens.

[olivier78860]

Try to make a photocopy of a page. Maybe it was anti-copy paper, and then the whole page would have been treated, making writing impossible.

[ImolaS3]

Was it two sided copies? If not, try writing on the back side and see what happens.

 

No it wasn't - good idea!

[backsideslappy]

My pens generally won't write on colour printed paper, particularly where highlights or graphs have been printed on it. I would think this has alot more to do with your ink, than with your pen, however.

[GeeBee]

Depends on the copier, its process and paper type.

My pens will work on a "standard" copier prints (dry powder black and white) but will struggle on wax type ones (mostly colour) or the occasional machine with to much silicone oil in the fuser cleaning section.

Uncoated paper (normal cheap copier paper) is mostly fine other than bleeding, coated papers vary alot due to the variety of coatings.

Edited August 4, 2011 by GeeBee

[bluemagister]

Depends on the copier, its process and paper type.

My pens will work on a "standard" copier prints (dry powder black and white) but will struggle on wax type ones (mostly colour) or the occasional machine with to much silicone oil in the fuser cleaning section.

Uncoated paper (normal cheap copier paper) is mostly fine other than bleeding, coated papers vary alot due to the variety of coatings.

 

 

This is correct. Fuser oil can stop a nib, as can excessive grease from hand lotion on the paper.

[Ernst Bitterman]

Keep in mind that even the dry-powder toner is plastic which is melted into the paper by the fuser, and thus will refuse ink to at least a degree. Blame the new technology, not the pen!

[Chthulhu]

I once attempted to reproduce the "white lines" paper with my Canon inkjet, and discovered that the ink in my pen would only write *on* the white lines, and not on the remainder of the page where the printer had placed ink. I don't recall which fountain pen ink was involved, though.

[DavidB]

My pens generally won't write on colour printed paper, particularly where highlights or graphs have been printed on it. I would think this has alot more to do with your ink, than with your pen, however.

 

If the page was a color laser printer, the toner used contains pigment/wax particles that melt onto the paper surface and prevent ink from "starting" by keeping it off of the paper fibers. The same thing can happen with B/W laser printing. Inkjet paper tends to be somewhat better (if you're writing on the printing, itself) because the paper needs to absorb liquid.

 

However, some paper surface treatments can completely discombobulate the writing process. For example, thermal-paper credit card receipts don't have enough surface roughness for ink to bleed out of the nib and start flowing into the paper. Other, larger sheets of paper can have similar problems, but to lesser degrees, depending on the degree of surface roughness.

 

Sometimes, the process of running paper through a laser printer will, in and of itself, alter the "writeability" of the page because the rollers and the high-temperature toner fusing mechanism's heat alter the paper surface for fountain pens.

 

My advice would be... roll with the punches and expect that printers do strange things to perfectly good paper. Just have a small notebook handy for notes in case disaster strikes and you can't write on anything else.

 

Regards!

 

David B.

[ImolaS3]

Well, remembered to try the back of the same pages today and it is much better but still not perfect (as it is on other, unprinted paper).

 

the worst page was colour laser printed which probably explains it form posts above

 

Thanks for the input