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I have just enjoyed goodguy1's excellent topic on Montblanc. The opening phrase 'The Queen vs the Princess' got me thinking.

What gender are your fountain pens?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Andy

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In portuguese, my native language , pen is a female word, so I can't think "pen" as a male gender. The phrase "The Queen vs the Princess" (MB 149 vs MB 146) sounds me perfect, cause both are two the best fountain pens of all ages.

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Wow. Never thought about it 'til now. At the risk of being completely insane, here goes.

 

The Gentlemen:

Lamy Safaris

Platinum Preppys

Kultur

Pilot VP

Pelikan M205 (a flyweight, but male nonetheless)

Montblanc 145R

Gate City Belmont

Edison Hudson and Nouveau Premiere

 

The Ladies:

Pilot Varsitys

Pilot 78G

Parker "51"

Montblanc 144R

Sailor Professional Gear

Levenger TrueWriter

Wing Sung 322

 

...and my rainbow of TWSBIs transcends gender.

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I've seen pens referred to as both masculine and feminine on FPN. But gender has pretty much disappeared in modern English. Exceptions exist though. Ships are women, so are continents. These words are a throwback to Old English. They carry scars of the past.

 

Sheaffer probably played the gender card as much as any pen company. As far back as the 1940s the Tuckaway was a unisex pen but later became a pen for women only. The Lady Sheaffer was, of course, gender specific. So was the beefy PFM (Pen for Men). I have a PFM and a Tuckaway but tend not to think of them as having gender. I call any pen an 'it'.

Ashby

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Ships, cars, and aeroplanes are female.

Helicopters, tractors and motorcycles are male.

Paintbrushes are female. Pencils are male.

Ballpoint pens might be female, although sometimes a little butch.

Fountain pen gender depends on shape, girth, and nib size:

Small nibbed pens are usually female, with the exception of Parker 51's, they are decidedly male.

Thin pens, such as Cross, are female. Unless they have big nibs, then they are male, even though they are thin. All big nib pens are male. Dip pens are female. Thick pens are male, unless they have small nibs, then they are also female - older females, aunties, if you wish.

All Sheaffers are male. Parker Sonnets are female. Duofolds are male.

Montblanc 139's and 149's are male. The Agatha Christie, Greta Garbo, Catherine the Great, Elizabeth 1 and Black Widow are female. The other WE's and POA's are all male.

The 146 is, unfortunately, of indeterminate gender.

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Interesting...

 

Men:

 

Parker, except for the Sonnet

Montblanks

Pelikans

Sheaffers

Waterman

Esterbrook

Visconti

Lamy 27

rOtring

Edison

Sailor

 

Ladies:

Lamy, except for the 27

Parker Sonnet

Aurora

WingSung

Hero

Duke

Pilot

Wish-list: Parker 51 India Black Vacumatic. Green Parker Vacumatic Maxima. Visconti Homo Sapien. Aurora Optima and Vintage 88. Lamy 27. Sheaffer Pen For Men V. Moss-Agate Waterman Patrician, Pelikan Souverän M450. I just need to win the lottery now.

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La plumafuente. . .

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

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S.T. Dupont did the answering for you with one of its models, which was named "Lady." I've only seen pictures of them, and they look slim and attractive. The Cross Sentiment seems also to wish to be seen as "feminine," since it comes with a little heart charm attached to the clip.

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My pens have no gender, but someone did mention ships being female. When I was in the Navy, I was stationed aboard USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74). How is a ship with a man's name and named after a man a she? Come to think of it, I don't ever remember referring to the ship as "she" either. This has baffled me for years.

I guess if I had to assign a gender to my pens it would have to be masculine. Pens to me are tools, and tools are manly and awesome.

For your first pen, you should buy a Pelikan m200 or a TWSBI 540.

For vintage, get a Parker Vacumatic or a 51.

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Greetings all,

 

Crazy me, I just always thought of pens as pens. :huh:

 

However, if I would ever have to break it down; I think my list would pretty much jive with 3124's, (with the exceptions of Pelikan M200s, due to its petite size and the Parker Urban, due to its overt feminine shape; have always seemed feminine to me).

 

All the best,

 

Sean :)

 

Interesting...

 

Men:

 

Parker, except for the Sonnet

Montblanks

Pelikans

Sheaffers

Waterman

Esterbrook

Visconti

Lamy 27

rOtring

Edison

Sailor

 

Ladies:

Lamy, except for the 27

Parker Sonnet

Aurora

WingSung

Hero

Duke

Pilot

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Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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(with the exceptions of Pelikan M200s, due to its petite size . . . ).

Do I get the feeling that somebody is overcompensating?

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James H. H. Lampert

Professional Dilettante

 

Posted Image was once a bottle of ink

Inky, Dinky, Thinky, Inky,

Blacky minky, Bottle of ink! -- Edward Lear

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corniche Antique

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(with the exceptions of Pelikan M200s, due to its petite size . . . ).

Do I get the feeling that somebody is overcompensating?

 

You'd know better about these things than I would. :D

 

All the best,

 

Sean :)

https://www.catholicscomehome.org/

 

"Every one therefore that shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven." - MT. 10:32

"Any society that will give up liberty to gain security deserves neither and will lose both." - Ben Franklin

Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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They are pens, inanimate objects made from man made materials, They DO NOT have a gender.... they are things...

Same as my car, my firearms, etc....

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They are pens, inanimate objects made from man made materials, They DO NOT have a gender.... they are things...

Same as my car, my firearms, etc....

+1; hear,hear.

Bryan

 

"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." Winston S. Churchill

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All it's.

Not a single ship or motorcycle, both female because of unexpected behavior....dangerous unexpected behavior. Sinking or falling down unexpectedly.

 

Men are expected behavior. They fall down when expected. :rolleyes:

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...However, if I would ever have to break it down; I think my list would pretty much jive with 3124's, (with the exceptions of Pelikan M200s, due to its petite size and the Parker Urban, due to its overt feminine shape; have always seemed feminine to me). ...

 

I'd have to disagree with the M2xx just due to it's overall shape, but I do agree about the Urban. I'd forgotten about that one. Otherwise I'd have listed it with the Sonnet.

Wish-list: Parker 51 India Black Vacumatic. Green Parker Vacumatic Maxima. Visconti Homo Sapien. Aurora Optima and Vintage 88. Lamy 27. Sheaffer Pen For Men V. Moss-Agate Waterman Patrician, Pelikan Souverän M450. I just need to win the lottery now.

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corniche Antique

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They are pens, inanimate objects made from man made materials, They DO NOT have a gender.... they are things...

Same as my car, my firearms, etc....

+1; hear,hear.

 

Hello Tom and Rufus,

 

Quite right! This has always been my POV... although I have been know to refer to my car as a "she"- but I think that is simply based on tradition. :)

 

All the best,

 

Sean :)

Edited by S. P. Colfer

https://www.catholicscomehome.org/

 

"Every one therefore that shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven." - MT. 10:32

"Any society that will give up liberty to gain security deserves neither and will lose both." - Ben Franklin

Thank you Our Lady of Prompt Succor & St. Jude.

 

 

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They are pens, inanimate objects made from man made materials, They DO NOT have a gender.... they are things...

Same as my car, my firearms, etc....

+1; hear,hear.

 

Hello Tom and Rufus,

 

Quite right! This has always been my POV... although I have been know to refer to my car as a "she"- but I think that is simply based on tradition. :)

 

All the best,

 

Sean :)

 

English considers objects neuter. Some other languages, not so much. If you had some of the pens I have, you might think the pens were indeed highly animated and full of intent to aggravate and annoy.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

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All it's.

Not a single ship or motorcycle, both female because of unexpected behavior....dangerous unexpected behavior. Sinking or falling down unexpectedly.

 

Men are expected behavior. They fall down when expected. :rolleyes:

 

By that logic, all of my pens are male with the exception of my Waterman Exception, but it is off to the "doctor" for an *ahem* sex change before too long.

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In the Spanish language all objects have a gender…so pens in Spanish, at least, are female. :mellow:

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