Edited- Decent Ebay Seller

[LisaN]

Edited- I was wrong-BBriddle was a decent seller after all- he had too many pens out and had lost track of which item was which.

He thought he had listed it as a wearever instead of a noname.

 

He wrote to me that he is glad I will appreciate it.

 

I am sorry to have maligned the guy. mea culpa.

 

:embarrassed_smile: :embarrassed_smile: :embarrassed_smile:

 

So yalls- do me a favor and remove my quated messages- because- I was wrong.

Edited September 3, 2010 by LisaN

[Hugh200au]

Hi Lisa,

 

You certainly paid top dollar for that one....at least it wasn't a Scheaffers

 

Regards

Hugh

[Kelly G]

The description of the pen set in the ebay add clearly says it is a Sheaffer set - I think it is a case of seller's remorse. You made a fair and fine deal!

[Ray-Vigo]

The description of the pen set in the ebay add clearly says it is a Sheaffer set - I think it is a case of seller's remorse. You made a fair and fine deal!

 

 

Probably-- seems like a case of "I opened low and it didn't go up as much as I thought it would".

[Pen Is Mightier]

Sounds like you got a good deal, I will always put a bid on a Balance if it is low. I actually won a set of 2 Balances with only problems being some tarnishing on the bands and clips and a personlization on each for $10, and I was the only bidder.

[kirchh]

So I wrote back, this time through fleabays message system, quoting his private message to my email:

 

Dear bbriddle,

 

Of course I want it, it was obvious from the photo that it is a 1934-1936 sheaffer balance 5-30 (or possibly 3-25 or lifetime) with a visualated section, and a matching mechanical pencil, which may be in need of a clutch repair.

 

Thanks!

It may be "obvious" what the pen is, but it is not 1934-1936, and it is not a 5-30, nor a 3-25, nor a Lifetime.

 

If your intent was to show off your expertise by identifying the set with such specificity, you may be in a "glass house" position...

 

--Daniel

Edited September 3, 2010 by kirchh

[Hugh200au]

So I wrote back, this time through fleabays message system, quoting his private message to my email:

 

Dear bbriddle,

 

Of course I want it, it was obvious from the photo that it is a 1934-1936 sheaffer balance 5-30 (or possibly 3-25 or lifetime) with a visualated section, and a matching mechanical pencil, which may be in need of a clutch repair.

 

Thanks!

It may be "obvious" what the pen is, but it is not 1934-1936, and it is not a 5-30, nor a 3-25, nor a Lifetime.

 

If your intent was to show off your expertise by identifying the set with such specificity, you may be in a "glass house" position...

 

--Daniel

 

Hi Daniel,

 

Out of interest what are we looking at ? I can't even decide what colour it is...i'm leaning to green stripe. If I had to make a call I'd go to late ~39-40 with a feathertouch nib.....but I'm well skilled in being wrong!! As an aside that Icroscope is a very impressive bit of gear and certainly not over the top cost wise. Those photos are real eyeopeners.

 

Regards

Hugh

[LisaN]

Again- I was wrong about the seller.

Very decent guy after all. :embarrassed_smile: :embarrassed_smile:

Edited September 3, 2010 by LisaN

[Hugh200au]

Oh!!....I guess we can forgive you

 

Regards

Hugh

[teej47]

Out of interest what are we looking at ? I can't even decide what colour it is...i'm leaning to green stripe. If I had to make a call I'd go to late ~39-40 with a feathertouch nib

 

 

I kinda thought it looked like striated green as well, just like my Sheaffer Jr of the same time-frame. My suspicion is that a #3 nib is as likely as anything else (if not more so). A 3-25 or 5-30 nib would not be what it originally sported (being a good decade older than the pen), but would be an interesting bonus.

 

Tim

[LisaN]

Yes, I scry into the picture and see a 3 nib there- I think I actually might already have that set or the next cap (I can't remember what I do have at home or is it a bigger one with a 5 nib at home?)- if it is green!

I have a 3-25 and a 5-30 nib at home in my box- and I can't remember where they came from either- maybe that black pen???

Edited September 3, 2010 by LisaN

[kirchh]

It's a circa 1937-1942 P3T (starting in 1938, model name "Craftsman") in striated Gray Pearl.

 

--Daniel

[teej47]

It's a circa 1937-1942 P3T (starting in 1938, model name "Craftsman") in striated Gray Pearl.

 

--Daniel

 

As usual, Daniel, you rock.

 

Tim

[LisaN]

P3T in green- Teej has good color sense.

 

The pencil is a wreck. The pen may be able to come out of it ok.

[kirchh]

P3T in green- Teej has good color sense.

It's Gray Pearl, not Marine Green; it's apparent from the listing picture. May have discolored a bit.

 

--Daniel

Edited September 8, 2010 by kirchh

[LisaN]

yes- it is gray- but very greenish- maybe it is covered with nicotine? I really had to get out my green and gray pens to tell for sure under two kinds of light.

 

It's definitely not my favorite pen in the bunch- that would be the white-dot gray pearl.

You've seen the pictures of that one, Daniel- should I lock it away?

It has a new sac, but I've never inked it, for fear of staining the window.

[LisaN]

aaand- after a cleanup, in daylight now next to the green and gray pens it looks...

Green... No... Gray... No... Green... No...

Pretty even, except the barrel under the cap it looks slightly more green.

I do not have the photography equipment to get any good true color pictures.

The hue is very like the green pens, but the saturation is very pale.

The section is very nice- the nib is good, the feed is crusty.

 

The pen is price coded 350- the pencil is coded 400, and is definitely gray.

The cap is unmarked and loose- also, the inner cap is protruding. Sigh.

[kirchh]

It's Gray Pearl. That configuration was not available (per catalogs) in Marine Green.

 

--Daniel

[LisaN]

Very true- and you would definitely not think it was the color marine green-

But it does look very greenish- like a batch issue,

or maybe it spent a long time in a hot attic in a cardboard box- could that make it green?

Although the section is not badly ambered.

 

The pencil is very gray, it isn't a match, is it-

 

I'm going to give the pen to my sister, if the feed comes out OK.

[teej47]

I wouldn't think a three and a half dollar pen would be a match for a four dollar pencil. Seems to me that would be a Pencil & Pen set instead of the other way around...

 

Tim