Bay State Blue

[jniforat]

Great points about the wall not being safe enough

 

 

*Surrenders: begins filling his P51 with BSB*

[fabrimedeiros]

I belive that many of BSB reports (and all bad comments about Noodlers inks) intend to blemish, difame Noodler's Brand, mainly when that report come from famous FP professional people (nibmeisters et al). Just because Noodler's is a new ink brand and revolutionary, what picks up a big ink market parcel. Tradional ink brands are quite unhappy.

 

As Noodler's has a huge variety of inks, some can't be good, but most are quite nice.

Edited August 4, 2010 by fabrimedeiros

[Possum Hill]

Great points about the wall not being safe enough

 

 

*Surrenders: begins filling his P51 with BSB*

Surrender isn't necessary. Fond as we are of BSB, I think most BSB users just hope you find ink you enjoy as much as we do BSB.

[Scrawler]

After Kilts, Bay State Blue may be the most talked about thing on FPN.

 

(You all thought this was not kilt territory didn't you!)

 

Kiltboy

Can you recommend a good kilt maker?

[bassopotamus]

I heard BSB Kidnapped the Lindbergh baby

[Northwoods]

Odd BSB experience last night. I tried it using a glass pen (nothing can damage a glass pen, right?) It wouldn't write. It scratched and skipped like the worst kind of clogged pen. I tried to re-dip and the same thing. I rinsed the pen and tried with a half dozen other colors and they all worked beautifully. I'm completely befuddled. It works fine in a metal nibbed dip pen, and in an eyedropper pen I have it in, but it didn't want to flow on the glass at all. Strangeness.

[Possum Hill]

Odd BSB experience last night. I tried it using a glass pen (nothing can damage a glass pen, right?) It wouldn't write. It scratched and skipped like the worst kind of clogged pen. I tried to re-dip and the same thing. I rinsed the pen and tried with a half dozen other colors and they all worked beautifully. I'm completely befuddled. It works fine in a metal nibbed dip pen, and in an eyedropper pen I have it in, but it didn't want to flow on the glass at all. Strangeness.

Very strange! It would be interesting to see how it behaves in one of the (uncommon) fountain pens with a glass nib.

[bythbook]

this thread is freaking me out... I'm new to all this FP business - busily acquiring cheapies & old Esties (FPAD is starting, I'm afraid.)

 

Today I lucked out and found a small stock of Noodler's inks at a local merchant - I bought a bottle of... yup, BSB. As soon as I got home with this beautiful potion, I cleaned my Lamy Safari Vista and FILLED 'ER UP!

 

At T+3 hours, the pen is still functioning - and writing better than it ever has! (OK, I fiddled the nib a little bit before I filled it.)

 

...and then I stumble upon this thread. YIKES!

 

(I use Noodler's Air-Corps Blue-Black in my Esterbrooks, no problem so far....)

 

 

I will report back if I have troubles with that Lamy.

 

 

...and what's this kilt stuff?

 

I ain't wearing no kilts.

 

 

- Jon

[79spitfire]

this thread is freaking me out... I'm new to all this FP business - busily acquiring cheapies & old Esties (FPAD is starting, I'm afraid.)

 

Today I lucked out and found a small stock of Noodler's inks at a local merchant - I bought a bottle of... yup, BSB. As soon as I got home with this beautiful potion, I cleaned my Lamy Safari Vista and FILLED 'ER UP!

 

At T+3 hours, the pen is still functioning - and writing better than it ever has! (OK, I fiddled the nib a little bit before I filled it.)

 

...and then I stumble upon this thread. YIKES!

 

(I use Noodler's Air-Corps Blue-Black in my Esterbrooks, no problem so far....)

 

 

I will report back if I have troubles with that Lamy.

 

 

...and what's this kilt stuff?

 

I ain't wearing no kilts.

 

 

- Jon

 

There were some concerns that Noodler's inks (Bay State Blue) was damaging pen parts. There are 2 other threads stating that BSB had damaged 2 Esterbrook caps, softening the celluloid. I was trying to duplicate the problem.

 

IMHO with regular maintenance you should be fine, but I'll warn you now, the converter in the Lamy is likely stained

Bay State Blue is an un-believably bright color, but can stain clear parts. I generally don't recommend it for beginners, for that reason. Good luck, let us know how you get on!

 

P.S. I have no earthly idea what Lamy pens have in common with Kilts either. Do they discuss fountain pens on Kilt forums?? :hmm1:

[bythbook]

 

 

There were some concerns that Noodler's inks (Bay State Blue) was damaging pen parts. There are 2 other threads stating that BSB had damaged 2 Esterbrook caps, softening the celluloid. I was trying to duplicate the problem.

 

IMHO with regular maintenance you should be fine, but I'll warn you now, the converter in the Lamy is likely stained

Bay State Blue is an un-believably bright color, but can stain clear parts. I generally don't recommend it for beginners, for that reason. Good luck, let us know how you get on!

 

P.S. I have no earthly idea what Lamy pens have in common with Kilts either. Do they discuss fountain pens on Kilt forums?? :hmm1:

 

 

 

...am I perverse?

 

...I'm gonna load up a Hero w/ BSB... let's see if I can melt that one!

[Garageboy]

79spitfire, I'd like to run more tests if you have any feed or celluloid bits left

[79spitfire]

 

 

There were some concerns that Noodler's inks (Bay State Blue) was damaging pen parts. There are 2 other threads stating that BSB had damaged 2 Esterbrook caps, softening the celluloid. I was trying to duplicate the problem.

 

IMHO with regular maintenance you should be fine, but I'll warn you now, the converter in the Lamy is likely stained

Bay State Blue is an un-believably bright color, but can stain clear parts. I generally don't recommend it for beginners, for that reason. Good luck, let us know how you get on!

 

P.S. I have no earthly idea what Lamy pens have in common with Kilts either. Do they discuss fountain pens on Kilt forums?? :hmm1:

 

 

 

...am I perverse?

 

...I'm gonna load up a Hero w/ BSB... let's see if I can melt that one!

 

Good luck, I understand it's the jumbo 616s that have the problem....

 

 

79spitfire, I'd like to run more tests if you have any feed or celluloid bits left

 

The feed got deep sixed as I was cleaning the desk off, but I found 2 pieces of the celluloid and have another old celluloid pen that got *ahem* "heat damaged" :embarrassed_smile: while I was trying to take it apart for a repair (it caught on fire).

 

BSB is in my daily rotation of inks (one of my favorites!) in a "Franklin Covey" fountain pen (Looks suspiciously like a Jihano) so far the only problem there is the stares of others as they watch the beautiful blue flow onto the paper.... :embarrassed_smile:

 

anyway, if your interested PM me I can pop them in a little package and let you have at them!

[piembi]

I belive that many of BSB reports (and all bad comments about Noodlers inks) intend to blemish, difame Noodler's Brand, mainly when that report come from famous FP professional people (nibmeisters et al). Just because Noodler's is a new ink brand and revolutionary, what picks up a big ink market parcel. Tradional ink brands are quite unhappy.

 

As Noodler's has a huge variety of inks, some can't be good, but most are quite nice.

 

Now that's an interesting comment.

You know that Noodlers ink is hard to come by outside Northern America?

And you know that Northern America is not exactly a mass market for fountain pens and inks, right?

 

If you are going to an average German or French supermarket you will find Pelikan, Lamy, Waterman and Parker and some cheaper office supply brands. This is the stuff school kids are using and this is the mass market. I cannot imagine a mom buying a bottle of Noodlers ink for 10 EUR + shipping from an online store if the local supermarket stocks good old washable ink. You know, kids tend to get ink all over so it is not only the spilled ink but also the stained clothes mom won't be happy about .....

 

As far as I understand, Noodlers is a one man company. And their market is not the European schoolkid but pen lovers. Beeing a big player in the school supplies market takes an international company. That's why many inks we love are still boutique inks - available only from online stores.

 

Edited for spelling ....

Edited August 30, 2010 by piembi

[raging.dragon]

Glenn-SC is very knowledgeable concerning fountain pens, and I'm sure if he's confident that BSB ruined his pen, then BSB ruined the pen.

 

Then he should have no trouble answering my polite inquiry. I would truly like to know by what mechanism BSB destroys pens.

I find it interesting that I have to defend my "pen hygiene" and knowledge of pen operation to "prove" that it was BSB and not me that damaged my pen!

:roflmho: :roflmho: :roflmho:

 

I just wrote a very long and detailed explanation of how I use and clean my pens and what BSB did to my Lamy.

Then I decided that it was pointless an erased it.

 

There is nothing I can say that will change your beliefs on BSB.

Believe what you want.

If you want to, use BSB in every pen you own and be happy.

 

If I remember the feed plugged and the piston filler was stuck/damaged/broken.

 

This "test" un-scientific as it is was meant to see if there were any noticeable changes/damages to celluloid, not the structural plastic used in Lamys (kilts or otherwise). I don't have any Lamy Safari's to test BSB with, I have however used one exclusively with Bullet Proof Black with no ill effects. This denies the "Noodler's will destroy your pens" statement from another thread. The only reason BSB was picked for this test is it is the ink blamed the most in the "pen was ruined" stories.

 

Celluloid was picked first due to the two Esterbrooks that were damaged. (and I had some to test with) Another variable I'm surprised no one has thought to bring up is the celluloid. It can't possibly be identical from manufacture to manufacture or even color to color. To eliminate all possible variables is literally impossible with the resources I have at my disposal.

 

My intentions were NOT to discredit anyone, I just wanted to find a way to "prove" to myself this ink was generally safe to use. Did it occur to anyone that perhaps this was just a bad batch, and the newer bottles of ink (such as mine) aren't capable of causing any weird reactions?

 

I've wondered if a bottle or batch of ink was contanimated with a strong organic solvent or a non-fountain pen ink which contained strong organic solvents.

[KCat]

I've wondered if a bottle or batch of ink was contanimated with a strong organic solvent or a non-fountain pen ink which contained strong organic solvents.

 

Please read the pinned topic per the instructions at the top of the forum.

[JefferyS]

If some of you are wondering why this thread was resurrected out of the blue, it leapfrogged from another forum.

[KCat]

If some of you are wondering why this thread was resurrected out of the blue, it leapfrogged from another forum.

 

Thanks, Jeffrey, for explaining that. I've ignored things this weekend and concentrated on real life. Funny, that.

 

Given that two posts occurred after it got to IT, I unfortunately can't let it go unnoticed or unaltered. Sorry folks but this one is getting closed down. Rules is rules and as far as I can tell there's nothing new in this discussion. This is an year-old discussion of data that has been wrangled over in the threads already provided in the links in the pinned topics.

Edited July 31, 2011 by KCat